Coronavirus (2021) thread

[M18CTID]

0 deaths is still too many for the Covid enthusiasts

And too few for the Covid deniers. Let’s see the cunts try and accuse the government of exaggerating today’s death figures.

 

[Gray]

I personally have had enough of restrictions and just want to get back to some semblance of normality.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I personally have had enough of restrictions and just want to get back to some semblance of normality.

what are you being restricted so much that doesn't bring normality ?

im seeing packed pub gardens, going for nice walks, playing footie for my team, going gym

why is life so unbearable like it is ?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I don't like those last couple of points on Scotland's chart. Looks like it's about to steepen further?

Not sure the exact phasing of restrictions in Scotland, but there are reasons to be gloomy:

Recent relaxation may only just starting to be reflected and could cause further acceleration.

Rise looks very close to exponential with a fast doubling.

And reasons to be optimistic:

Every day is more people vaccinated.

Summer (even in Scotland!) is nearly upon us and should reduce R

There are places where spikes have been flattened.

Personally: no idea what will happen next. Very uncertain.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

what are you being restricted so much that doesn't bring normality ?

im seeing packed pub gardens, going for nice walks, playing footie for my team, going gym

why is life so unbearable like it is ?

One industry I really feel sorry for, as a dad, is for soft plays and such like. I don't know what the situation is South of the border but where I am they haven't opened their doors in most areas once since March 2020. Tragic seeing some of these family run businesses struggling, without getting into the rights and wrongs of it. Pubs and hospitality always gets the spotlight but there are others which unfortunately don't get such attention or sympathy.

 

[Healdplace]

GM cases 419 - down 212 on yeserday. But up 96 on last week. As you can see Manchester and Stockport drove most of that wk to wk rse on their own.

But Manchester and Bolton drove most of the day to day fall with all the other boroughs chipping in other than Stockport who bucked the trend.

That 212 day to day fall is out of a NW fall of 258 today - from 1038 to 780.

So most of that fall was in GM which is really good news.

Week to week the NW is up by 214 and that 96 rise week to week is also below par so very good news.

Conclusion - very good day for GM. But less so for Stockport.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Not sure the exact phasing of restrictions in Scotland, but there are reasons to be gloomy:

Recent relaxation may only just starting to be reflected and could cause further acceleration.

Rise looks very close to exponential with a fast doubling.

And reasons to be optimistic:

Every day is more people vaccinated.

Summer (even in Scotland!) is nearly upon us and should reduce R

There are places where spikes have been flattened.

Personally: no idea what will happen next. Very uncertain.

Yeah, agree with that. Just like to add one point, and it's an optimistic one, is that one place which *seems* to have been flattened is Glasgow. My gut is telling me that if Glasgow can be a steep but short hill and not a mountain, that bodes well for everywhere else all things considered. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[ayia napa blues]

GM cases 419 - down 212 on yeserday. But up 96 on last week. As you can see Manchester and Stockport drove most of that wk to wk rse on their own.

But Manchester and Bolton drove most of the day to day fall with all the other boroughs chipping in other than Stockport who bucked the trend.

That 212 day to day fall is out of a NW fall of 258 today - from 1038 to 780.

So most of that fall was in GM which is really good news.

Week to week the NW is up by 214 and that 96 rise week to week is also below par so very good news.

Conclusion - very good day for GM. But less so for Stockport.

I think the stockport cases have been due to an outbreaks in primary schools so nothing to worry about no one is getting ill I know 4 people that have tested positive this week not ill at all

 

[Healdplace]

Okay the long weekend hospital data.

It could be worse is the best conclusion.

Over the days England patients rose every day BUT by small numbers.


743 to 748 to 755 to 773 to 776.

The week before these same days were 766 to 730 to 756 to 797 to 765.

So yes this is worse but not exactly a dramatic rise considering.

NW is as you would expect the main problem but even here not a disaster.

173 - 170 - 171 - 184 - 184 - so it rose by just 11 of the 33 nationwide over the 4 day period.

Over the same period last week it rose by 21. So this is actually an improvement.

 

[True_Blue69]

Unfortuntely it really does look like Stockport is the next area going into trouble. Which given it has the best vaccination numbers in GM is a little concerning.

The good news first.

NOT ONE GM borough over 100 for the first time in 3 weeks.

BOROUGH CASES TODAY / DAY TO DAY / WEEK TO WEEK



BOLTON 98 / Down 58 / Down 19

BURY 42 / Down 7 / UP 28

MANCHESTER 97 / Down 68 / UP 42

OLDHAM 18 / Down 13 / Down 16

ROCHDALE 22 / Down 7 / Down 2

SALFORD 34 / Down 29 / UP 13

STOCKPORT 47 /UP 14 / UP 33

TAMESIDE 15 / Down 18 / UP 10

TRAFFORD 18 / Down 21 / UP 8

WIGAN 28 / Down 20 / Down 6


As you can see some pretty good numbers there day to day and week to week. For most boroughs.

But no question who had the worst of it. Stockport had a very bad day.

A bit of a puzzle as to why given its vaccine numbers.

May just be the up and down numbers caused by the change in methods that do not delete false positives day to day just on the overall total that will see some days artificually up and others artificially dowm and tomorrow it will be down when everywhere else is up.

But Zoe saw a big rise here too yesterday in their reported symptoms.

I live in Stockport so notice every time you say this and the amount of times you’ve predicted Stockport of going to be in trouble only for it not to has been bordering on ridiculous. I know you said you’re friends with the MP or something but have you got some kind of beef with the area?

 

[True_Blue69]

what are you being restricted so much that doesn't bring normality ?

im seeing packed pub gardens, going for nice walks, playing footie for my team, going gym

why is life so unbearable like it is ?

The conspiracy theorists predicted this, people would just accept the restrictions eventually and I’m seeing more and more of this now. It might not affect you, I assume you are in a good safe job with house you possibly own and are financially secure? This isn’t the case for millions ‘as it is’ and there are still shit loads on furlough who will probably lose their jobs if things don’t go back to normal soon.

 

[Healdplace]

If you look at the hospital data week to week NW is up from 174 to 184 - by 10

Midlands has a similar trajectory to NW but is also not exactly a problem - up from 134 to 139 - by 5.

Yorkshire in contrast is doing fine and its falls have continued and its cases have stayed low too. They fell in the week from 98 to 92.

East is up 10 week to week too.

None of these numbers are a big concern.

 

[Healdplace]

Ventilators though are up quite a bit over the 4 day weekend - indeed up 13 in the past 24 hours biggest daily rise in a while. Total now 123 - that is the highest in 20 days. But again we are talking 10/20 ups and downs in 3 weeks.

Unfortunately here it is very clrearly the NW driving this increase. Most other areas are down.

NW has gone from 18 on 23 May rising almost every day to 37 today. Doubling in 9 days.

These are smal signs and not a big leap but they are signs we need to watch.

 

[unicorn]

what are you being restricted so much that doesn't bring normality ?

im seeing packed pub gardens, going for nice walks, playing footie for my team, going gym

why is life so unbearable like it is ?

Apart from live music and a packed Etihad/London Stadium and the fact that the vast majority of hospitality businesses aren't financially viable with reduced capacity and the cost of table service ?

Not being sarcastic mate, to be honest I feel life is OK, but we're far from back to normal.

 

[True_Blue69]

Not sure the exact phasing of restrictions in Scotland, but there are reasons to be gloomy:

Recent relaxation may only just starting to be reflected and could cause further acceleration.

Rise looks very close to exponential with a fast doubling.

And reasons to be optimistic:

Every day is more people vaccinated.

Summer (even in Scotland!) is nearly upon us and should reduce R

There are places where spikes have been flattened.

Personally: no idea what will happen next. Very uncertain.

Surely barely anyone dying whilst having it is a reason to be optimistic?

 

[Gray]

what are you being restricted so much that doesn't bring normality ?

im seeing packed pub gardens, going for nice walks, playing footie for my team, going gym

why is life so unbearable like it is ?

Missed going to the Etihad mate, going to the last home match after being picked in the ballot was a joyous ocassion.

 

[Manc in London]

Cases 3165 from 585, 399 pillar 1 & 2 tests

Unsurprisingly testing very low over past few days. Only 465 K 2 days ago.

The most was 654 K 3 days ago.

For comparison 7 days ago there 350 K more tests than today. For 672 fewer cases.

As schoolchildren and many parents are testing themselves at home, I would have thought they will not be accounted for in the number of tests unless positive. Thus, i would have thought the number of tests is considerably higher than the c600k reported.

 

[SWP's back]

The conspiracy theorists predicted this, people would just accept the restrictions eventually and I’m seeing more and more of this now. It might not affect you, I assume you are in a good safe job with house you possibly own and are financially secure? This isn’t the case for millions ‘as it is’ and there are still shit loads on furlough who will probably lose their jobs if things don’t go back to normal soon.

You are the conspiracy theorist.

 

[Healdplace]

I live in Stockport so notice every time you say this and the amount of times you’ve predicted Stockport of going to be in trouble only for it not to has been bordering on ridiculous. I know you said you’re friends with the MP or something but have you got some kind of beef with the area?

Hardly. My family live there. I just report the data and what it flags up. You take it or leave it.

You seem to have missed all the good things I say about Stockport when I report their successes such as the best vaccination numbers in GM and even now the second best Pop Score across the whole pandemic lower than 8 other boroughs and until quite recently ALL of them. And when they were best in GM on single figure numbers as they often were up to just a week or so ago. So rather selective reading you are doing spotting only the negative stuff. Which has been faorly rare as Stockport has a verygood record across the pandemic.

Which means it is noticeable when it diverges from that success.

They have gone from a Pop score of 14 just 9 days ago to almost 100 which is not me making up a problem. It clearly is something to watch.Though they are far from alone. They are just the area that could go into trouble right now. I really hope they do not. We all surely do. But watching this matters.

As I have said a few times it may be the silly decision to change the daily case number methods in the government data so they jump up and down artificially when tests are removed (but not removed in the daily data) but right now I just report what those numbers say and suggesting I have a downer on Stockport because of numbers I have no say over reporting is a bit strange.

 

[Keith Moncrieff]

I live in Stockport so notice every time you say this and the amount of times you’ve predicted Stockport of going to be in trouble only for it not to has been bordering on ridiculous. I know you said you’re friends with the MP or something but have you got some kind of beef with the area?

It’s ever since the big Poundland closed in the town centre