How do you know that, they definitely offer Pfizer?
There's no mention in any of the emails I've got on what type of vaccine I'll be getting.
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How do you know that, they definitely offer Pfizer?
There's no mention in any of the emails I've got on what type of vaccine I'll be getting.
M18CTID
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I don’t believe we’re staring into the abyss. I think the uptick in cases will lead to a bit of a rise in hospitalisations and deaths which may lead to a delay in the June 21st easing of restrictions but the situation will be nowhere near as bad as it was in January or last April due to the vaccine rollout. I also would like to see some context on these figures. It would be nice to know how many deaths and serious cases going forward are people who have refused to take the vaccine and how many are people who have had both jabs.One point of view were on the final lap and the other we’re staring into the abyss. Hard to judge what’s happening
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These Scotland rises in patients and icu are the thing to watch as they are going up. But not YET at precipitous levels as we saw in January when cases rose. Though they were about 12 times more cases than now so hardly a surprise.
As the two most impacted areas - Scotland and North West - are BOTH rising in patients thee are the numbers we need to watch.
NW - though - so far just up 10 from 174 to 184 in the week - a number which has not impacted the UK much as other regions are still falling (as they do not have this variant much as yet) so that in effect counteracts any rise elsewhere where they do.
Deaths are always going to be the last thing to show. But Scotland with a 67% rise in ventilator icu week to week and North West in that week gone from 22 to 37 - by far the biggest recent jump in England - IS for me the one really concerning stat right now.
That is a very similar % jump in a week to Scotland.
If that goes on and - more worryingly - if - because we are already pretty open let alone the plans for 3 weeks time - this spreads across all UK regions not yet awash with the variant and happens there too - then multiplied by all those numbers we will see a rise in hospital figure that cannot be just nodded away because we are all fed up with lockdown.
We do not yet know what will happen to these rises. Bolton is showing hope that a plateau was reached quickly and is already falling. If that tranalates into better NW hospital data then there is good news. But we are likely not to know that for a week or two. Or see if the hospital data drives deaths up significxantly as it hopefully never will because of lower age groups catcjing it and the older vulnerable ones double jabbed.
The decision in front of us is critical and I just do not think right now it can be called either way. We cannot rush this. But we should take no chances like Pep changing a winning team as the best tactic at a cricual moment.
Prudence here might be the best tactic until we know where we stand.
As the two most impacted areas - Scotland and North West - are BOTH rising in patients thee are the numbers we need to watch.
NW - though - so far just up 10 from 174 to 184 in the week - a number which has not impacted the UK much as other regions are still falling (as they do not have this variant much as yet) so that in effect counteracts any rise elsewhere where they do.
Deaths are always going to be the last thing to show. But Scotland with a 67% rise in ventilator icu week to week and North West in that week gone from 22 to 37 - by far the biggest recent jump in England - IS for me the one really concerning stat right now.
That is a very similar % jump in a week to Scotland.
If that goes on and - more worryingly - if - because we are already pretty open let alone the plans for 3 weeks time - this spreads across all UK regions not yet awash with the variant and happens there too - then multiplied by all those numbers we will see a rise in hospital figure that cannot be just nodded away because we are all fed up with lockdown.
We do not yet know what will happen to these rises. Bolton is showing hope that a plateau was reached quickly and is already falling. If that tranalates into better NW hospital data then there is good news. But we are likely not to know that for a week or two. Or see if the hospital data drives deaths up significxantly as it hopefully never will because of lower age groups catcjing it and the older vulnerable ones double jabbed.
The decision in front of us is critical and I just do not think right now it can be called either way. We cannot rush this. But we should take no chances like Pep changing a winning team as the best tactic at a cricual moment.
Prudence here might be the best tactic until we know where we stand.
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Are you under 40? Ive got mine tomorrow and it says Pfizer on the bookingHow do you know that, they definitely offer Pfizer?
There's no mention in any of the emails I've got on what type of vaccine I'll be getting.
Latest video just gone up from Tim specter on YouTube..very reassuring, says we not having a third wave, its just a ripple. Most cases in under 30s, he's very happy with vaccines and says make sure to get your second jab. More RTA deaths in the UK than covid now. Well worth watch..
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Did you book via NHS england system or your local system?Yeah I'm early 30s. Just has the booking number, location and time in the emails I've had so far.
Healdplace
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Northern Ireland data:
A NATION THAT MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BANNING TRAVEL FROM THE UK!
Only joking but the difference here is stunning and sadly where England and Scotland would likely be now pro rata had we not been so slow over flights from India.
0 deaths - was 0 last week
84 cases - was 66 last week
3.6% positivity - waa 2.9% last week
7 day rolling cases 484 - was 460 yesterday & 540 last week
2 Care Home outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & last week
17 patients - down 3 on yesterday - was 28 last week
0 ventilated - was 0 yesterday & 1 last week
THis is about as close to zero covid as I think the rest of us could ever dream
A NATION THAT MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BANNING TRAVEL FROM THE UK!
Only joking but the difference here is stunning and sadly where England and Scotland would likely be now pro rata had we not been so slow over flights from India.
0 deaths - was 0 last week
84 cases - was 66 last week
3.6% positivity - waa 2.9% last week
7 day rolling cases 484 - was 460 yesterday & 540 last week
2 Care Home outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & last week
17 patients - down 3 on yesterday - was 28 last week
0 ventilated - was 0 yesterday & 1 last week
THis is about as close to zero covid as I think the rest of us could ever dream
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It said Pfizer when she booked it. My 22 year old son has got his invitation too but hasn’t booked yet.How do you know that, they definitely offer Pfizer?
There's no mention in any of the emails I've got on what type of vaccine I'll be getting.
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Northern Ireland data:
A NATION THAT MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER BANNING TRAVEL FROM THE UK!
Only joking but the difference here is stunning and sadly where England and Scotland would likely be now pro rata had we not been so slow over flights from India.
0 deaths - was 0 last week
84 cases - was 66 last week
3.6% positivity - waa 2.9% last week
7 day rolling cases 484 - was 460 yesterday & 540 last week
2 Care Home outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & last week
17 patients - down 3 on yesterday - was 28 last week
0 ventilated - was 0 yesterday & 1 last week
THis is about as close to zero covid as I think the rest of us could ever dream
Great news, but 56 million compared to a country of 1.8 million is a big difference
Healdplace
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Gov UK have been improving the vaccination data reporting over recent days.It is a good idea.
Just posted on Twitter from there are the % of people in each age range who have had BOTH jabs.
This is in England.
16-29 12%
30-34 19%
35-39 22%
40-44 29%
45-49 34%
50-54 57%
55-59 66%
60-64 86%
65-69 90%
70-74 95%
75-79 100%
80+ 93%
Just posted on Twitter from there are the % of people in each age range who have had BOTH jabs.
This is in England.
16-29 12%
30-34 19%
35-39 22%
40-44 29%
45-49 34%
50-54 57%
55-59 66%
60-64 86%
65-69 90%
70-74 95%
75-79 100%
80+ 93%
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Neither should have been invited yet.It said Pfizer when she booked it. My 22 year old son has got his invitation too but hasn’t booked yet.
Healdplace
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Indeed that is obviously a factor but they have improved at a swifter rate than England or Scotland and are not going backwards. That almost certainly is because they are not getting the variant there in any big numbersGreat news, but 56 million compared to a country of 1.8 million is a big difference
Yet. Of course.
So lots of people under 60 not taking up the offer ?Gov UK have been improving the vaccination data reporting over recent days.It is a good idea.
Just posted on Twitter from there are the % of people in each age range who have had BOTH jabs.
This is in England.
16-29 12%
30-34 19%
35-39 22%
40-44 29%
45-49 34%
50-54 57%
55-59 66%
60-64 86%
65-69 90%
70-74 95%
75-79 100%
80+ 93%
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So lots of people under 60 not taking up the offer ?
That's for both jabs. For most people under 60 won't have had their first until quite recently I'd imagine.
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How do you work that out? Different areas are further ahead and clearly Salford is one of them. Neither have jumped the queue or used a link they have been given but both have received their invitations from Salford CCG.Neither should have been invited yet.
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The Light Was Yellow Sir
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That’s not what that means. The under 60’s were only invited on Feb 28th, so they would only just be eligible for second doses, which is what that table describes.So lots of people under 60 not taking up the offer ?
Got yaThat's for both jabs. For most people under 60 won't have had their first until quite recently I'd imagine.
Got yaThat’s not what that means. The under 60’s were only invited on Feb 28th, so they would only just be eligible for second doses, which is what that table describes.
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