Covid and travel discussion

Went to Llangollen last weekend. Enjoyed it, some beautiful walks but I'm sorry, it's not a patch on going abroad.

The problem is it's just like a slight variation of what you do when you are at home.
Getting away to somewhere that feels different, has a different atmosphere is part of the holiday and for me, the UK just doesn't cut it. It's marginally better than being at home.

Plus, as noted above, the UK is way too small to accommodate everybody going on holiday in a packed 8-week period. And also as somebody says, it's so overpriced for what you get.

If you enjoy spending weeks away in the UK, good luck to you, carry on enjoying it, but stop moaning about those who enjoy travelling properly.
 
For people like me and my partner who don't drive, getting around the UK is an expensive do, compared to £15 taxi journey to the airport and flights to Europe can cost £30-50 each way, sometimes cheaper. What would that get me in UK, a train to Birmingham, if that?

The food and drink is nicer, the people are nicer, better atmosphere in general, the weather, the public transport in many countries is miles better. The list goes on and on.

We tend to do City breaks 3-5 times a year and a pool holiday once every 3 years or so.

It's just not the same doing what we do in the UK.
 
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RobMCFC said:
Went to Llangollen last weekend. Enjoyed it, some beautiful walks but I'm sorry, it's not a patch on going abroad.

The problem is it's just like a slight variation of what you do when you are at home.
Getting away to somewhere that feels different, has a different atmosphere is part of the holiday and for me, the UK just doesn't cut it. It's marginally better than being at home.

Plus, as noted above, the UK is way too small to accommodate everybody going on holiday in a packed 8-week period. And also as somebody says, it's so overpriced for what you get.

If you enjoy spending weeks away in the UK, good luck to you, carry on enjoying it, but stop moaning about those who enjoy travelling properly.
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Whole point of this wasn't about comparing overseas holidays with British holidays, it was about saying why can't Brits just stay home for a 1 or 2 years during a pandemic.
 
Mada-MCFC-adaM said:
For people like me and my partner who don't drive, getting around the UK is an expensive do, compared to £15 taxi journey to the airport and flights to Europe can cost £30-50 each way, sometimes cheaper. What would that get me in UK, a train to Birmingham, if that?

The food and drink is nicer, the people are nicer, the weather, the public transport in many countries is miles better. The list goes on and on.

We tend to do City breaks 3-5 times a year and a pool holiday once every 3 years or so.

It's just not the same doing what we do in the UK.
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Birmingham does offer daily shootings and stabbings..and the locals speak with a funny accent..
 
RobMCFC said:
Went to Llangollen last weekend. Enjoyed it, some beautiful walks but I'm sorry, it's not a patch on going abroad.

The problem is it's just like a slight variation of what you do when you are at home.
Getting away to somewhere that feels different, has a different atmosphere is part of the holiday and for me, the UK just doesn't cut it. It's marginally better than being at home.

Plus, as noted above, the UK is way too small to accommodate everybody going on holiday in a packed 8-week period. And also as somebody says, it's so overpriced for what you get.

If you enjoy spending weeks away in the UK, good luck to you, carry on enjoying it, but stop moaning about those who enjoy travelling properly.
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I like to travel to places where I won't bump into many people from my own country..says a lot
 
Bill Walker said:
Whole point of this wasn't about comparing overseas holidays with British holidays, it was about saying why can't Brits just stay home for a 1 or 2 years during a pandemic.
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And after '1 or 2 years' how do you propose people get abroad as all the travel companies are likely to have gone bust and all the staff unemployed and on the scrapheap?
 
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bluethrunthru said:
I'd say they were reckless if they didn't appreciate that traffic lights change - I'd love to be abroad right now having just retired but I am not silly enough to think that given the way that this thing spreads to go away for a fortnight then there was a risk it may not be green in 2 weeks time.
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I doubt those that have gone haven’t accepted that risk. It’s the enjoyment these turds get out of it that is shitty
 
RobMCFC said:
Went to Llangollen last weekend. Enjoyed it, some beautiful walks but I'm sorry, it's not a patch on going abroad.

The problem is it's just like a slight variation of what you do when you are at home.
Getting away to somewhere that feels different, has a different atmosphere is part of the holiday and for me, the UK just doesn't cut it. It's marginally better than being at home.

Plus, as noted above, the UK is way too small to accommodate everybody going on holiday in a packed 8-week period. And also as somebody says, it's so overpriced for what you get.

If you enjoy spending weeks away in the UK, good luck to you, carry on enjoying it, but stop moaning about those who enjoy travelling properly.
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Exactly.
but what is being lost as well is there is actually no justification for not allowing travel abroad to these places that are at the same place we are.
 
bluethrunthru said:
People are dying from Covid-19. There is a lull here but at your destination people will be dying. They may be dying from the Nepalese Variant which we know little about at the moment. Do you think its fair that for the sake of you spending a week in the sun you could bring back a strain that spreads through everyone you come into contact with?
And before you go into the world of vaccines - what they do at the moment is NOT prevent you from getting infected it means that if you get infected the effect on you should be diminished and you are unlikely to need hospitalisation nor ITU care. That applies to the variations that we know of - not the unknown unknowns to do a Rumsfeld.
I saw the other day that 5 people have died from the effects of Covid 19 in the UK after having had both doses of the vaccine.
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So what’s the end point? Everyone vulnerable has had a vaccine. Some people may die of it still who’ve had it (not many) who may have died from flu after a flu vaccination. This is NEVER going away, so that means by little girls life is ruined forever for it? Before people get smug, how many birthday parties have kids missed out on, she’s not been to a single one as she was nursery age last year and now reception , prime time for birthday parties every year. By time we will go on holiday she’ll be coming to an end of her little girl wanting to go mini disco stage. Selfish. But let’s live in fear forever of a virus which isn’t killing anymore (in great numbers) in places with decent vaccination programmes .
 
ctwrd said:
Exactly.
but what is being lost as well is there is actually no justification for not allowing travel abroad to these places that are at the same place we are.
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This is what people seem to be missing. "OOOhhh you cant go to Portugal or Spain because they might have big scary variants!" What, you mean like the one from Kent or the one from India or South Africa that are all freely circulating here already. Wait long enough and whatever variant that will spring up in any given country will spring up here anyway. That's the nature of the way a virus works. How ****in difficult is it for people to undetrstand that you can't stop a bloody virus circulating by closing borders? Don't we not have enough evidence of that already?

When everybody has been offered a first jab, things should open up properly.

Big-P said:
So what’s the end point? Everyone vulnerable has had a vaccine. Some people may die of it still who’ve had it (not many) who may have died from flu after a flu vaccination. This is NEVER going away, so that means by little girls life is ruined forever for it? Before people get smug, how many birthday parties have kids missed out on, she’s not been to a single one as she was nursery age last year and now reception , prime time for birthday parties every year. By time we will go on holiday she’ll be coming to an end of her little girl wanting to go mini disco stage. Selfish. But let’s live in fear forever of a virus which isn’t killing anymore (in great numbers) in places with decent vaccination programmes .
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I hope you get to go on holiday with your little girl. We have so many happy holiday memories of mini-discos etc. We build our life around holidays. It's a crying shame that so many people are missing out due to government incompetence and it's not just holidays. People can't get treatment for cancer because COVID is somehow deemed worse.

The fact is that the "just wait a year or two or three" suddenly becomes half a generation. It's wearing pretty thin when there's no evidence that travel (to the EU at least) will make things any worse. The sad fact is that by the time the worst is over, many people won't be here to enjoy things (or won't have enough money to enjoy them because the government have ****ed their chances of having a job or career).
 
I appreciate there is plenty of nice places in the UK but frankly, we rarely get the weather, its over priced and there is hardly an availability. I'm very fortunate my mum and dad have a place in Wales I can visit and a brother in Scotland, otherwise the two weeks we were desperate to spend in Portugal (we go every year twice a year, not just because its green) would have been thoroughly miserable.

The people I feel sorry for most are those whos jobs will be most affected by this at home and abroad.

On a side note, what happened to the watchlist?
 
We’re having the piss taken out of us. They continue to let Indian flights in in their droves and then moan about the increasing number of cases. Not to mention all the boatloads of untested and in quarantined ‘asylum’ seekers arriving in Kent. They have the Balearic Islands and many other places on the amber list even though their figures are considerably lower than here. If a country would accept us with proof of a double jab and their figures are lower than here then what on earth is the problem? I dont want to holiday here because the weather is shite, it’s full of scrotes and it’s very expensive. I think the goodwill of the public is wearing very thin. All because 1 person allegedly died the other day of COVID. It’s a shambles.
 
I looked up the cost of visiting Wales on train the other day from Bournemouth. £131 return!!! Cheaper to fly to most European destinations which is why I would not entertain a break in this country.
 
Kinkladze 1 said:
We’re having the piss taken out of us. They continue to let Indian flights in in their droves and then moan about the increasing number of cases. Not to mention all the boatloads of untested and in quarantined ‘asylum’ seekers arriving in Kent. They have the Balearic Islands and many other places on the amber list even though their figures are considerably lower than here. If a country would accept us with proof of a double jab and their figures are lower than here then what on earth is the problem? I dont want to holiday here because the weather is shite, it’s full of scrotes and it’s very expensive. I think the goodwill of the public is wearing very thin. All because 1 person allegedly died the other day of COVID. It’s a shambles.
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The problem is we are currently being run by a group of clowns who are making things up as they go along now.
I agree with you I wouldn't ever holiday here, full of idiots, traffic jams and like you say too expensive. I personally can't stand this country bar a few places. I stick to the lakes just doing the odd day.
The goverment is going to ruin the travel industry, they haven't got a clue anymore.
 
Was going to cancel holiday to the Greek Islands in a fortnight when it didn't go green but we've decided to go anyway. I'll do the 10 day quarantine on return. Working from home anyway and hardly going out at the moment. The missus will do the day 5 test to release for an extra £60. Should be nice and quiet at the hotel.
 
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