Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Psychedelic Casual said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about though. Im talking about following the current rules now until the time they’re relaxed. Im not saying they shouldn’t be relaxed.

If people are being told to isolate now while the rules still say they should isolate, whether they’ve had no jabs one jab or two jabs, they should do that until the rules are changed to say we don’t have to do that anymore. Nobody should be making their own rules up. The bloke was wrong when he implied that a negative COVID test means they dont have COVID, because it can take up to ten days to present itself, which is why isolation lasts ten days.

I never mentioned anything about not lifting restrictions.
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And I didn't mention your reply, I mentioned the post you were dissing at the time. The post that was right in every way.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. The number of Covid patients in hospital by now was between 2,000 and 39,000. Latest figure: 801, which must be good news?
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That 801 was two days ago and just in England. It is 779 in England and 928 UK as of yesterday. As I posted last night here.

The Gov web site is nearly always out of date on hospital numbers.

But your point of course stands completely true.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I guess the parents of the 7 year old in this article thought the same

www.standard.co.uk

915 more Covid-19 deaths announced including one of UK’s youngest victims

A further 915 Covid deaths have been announced, including a seven-year-old child.
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk

Same here - a year ago the number was 5 dead. What do you base your research on?

www.theguardian.com

Five children have died of coronavirus in UK, study reveals

Audit finds that of the 71 under-18s who have needed intensive care, most have survived
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Well done for managing to find articles about covid killing kids, bet that was fun for you. Mine is fortunate enough to not suffer with underlying health issues so like I said, I’ll wait a few years until she has any vaccine for it.
 
shemnel said:
im in Morecambe, so i count as Lancaster LTLA, and i've been watching this variant hop from Bolton to Blackburn to Preston to so on and so on and now Wrye which is next door....Lancaster your time has come.

it's everywhere. it'll be everywhere. have we broken the chain with enough vaccinations to avoid another rush on the hospitals when it is so vitally important to work on the backlog? feel totally powerless.
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This is encouraging and frustrating at the same time.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/huge-vaccine-queues-moss-side-20740218
 
True_Blue69 said:
Great stats these comparisons, you must have amassed quite a bit of data on this!
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On lots of scraps of paper. Mostly I just know where to look to find them.

The main reason I post data in here though to the over extremes that I know I do is that there is a great searchable data base created by doing so.

I just go back and find the numbers I posted at any point over the past year using search and Blue Moon has them waiting.

Any of you can do the same if you have the time.

I just do have some now after spending the past 6 weeks up to 3 am finishing that book on murder cases for one of my publishers and the Covid numbers getting better is light relief by comparison to that.
 
977 cases in Scotland today

17 in people aged 65+
136 in people aged 45-64

364 in people aged 25-44
489 in people aged 0-24 (183 of those in kids aged 0-14)

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2 deaths

1 aged 65-74
1 aged 25-44

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20k first doses
33k second doses

Good to see these being ramped up from where we were a couple of weeks ago. Still need to keep going as fast as we possibly can.

Get your vaccine.
 
I wish there was more vaccine. The demand seems to be incredible judging by photographs in the MEN of Moss-Side

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Northern Ireland data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

73 cases - was 75 last week

4.6% positivity - was 3.8% last week

Rolling 7 day cases 475 - was 488 yesterday & 518 last week

2 Care Home Outbreaks - was 2 yesterday & 4 last week

19 patients - was 17 yesterday & 28 last week

0 ventilated - was 0 yesterday & last week


Age ranges of 7 day cases:

0 - 19 (157) 33.1%

20 - 39 !195) 41.1%

40 - 59 (88) 18.5%

60 - 79 (31) 6.7%

80 PLUS (3) 0.6%


The number of children in the under 19s has been the biggest fall in numbers over past few days.

The over 80s have fallen in that time from 4 to 3 - though the 60 - 79s risen from 27 to 31. Biggest rise is in the 20 - 39 range up from 172 to 195.
 
So todays cases are 144 from N Ireland and Wales combined plus 992 from Scotand = 1136.

This is the highest in quite some weeks for the three nations but also by far the most lopsided.

It was 748 last week. 526 the week before. And 365 the week before that.
 
And the deaths with out of England hospital to come are 7.

Last week it was 13, wk before 7 and wk before 8.

These were 10 - 9 - 17 when all settings (that is out of England hospital numbers) added and any deletions occurred.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
We are swimming in AZ, unfortunately........
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Surely there's a huge argument for drop in centers advertised as AZ only so for anyone who's really not wanting that miniscule blood clot risk can wait for MRNA and those (like me) who's just desperate to get vaccinated as quickly as possible can go?

Would speed up the entire process, if the risk is documented then I feel its only right that people still have the chance to take that (very small) risk balanced against catching Covid while they wait.
 
6238 cases 11 all settings deaths

As expected big jump up again.

And from 52,000 fewer tests than yesterday too.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Whenever the scientists say that enough of the population have been vaccinated and the virus is suppressed enough for them to give the go ahead for the govt to say it ceases.

If people had followed the rules at every point from last March, no matter what Govt mistakes have been made, we’d be in a better position now.
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No - when the data says folks are not going into ICU and/or dying when catching the virus (due to vaccination) then we remove restrictions and let it rip through the population so we gain immunity for the next variant which could be much worse.
You're twice as likely to be hospitalised with the Delta varriant! What's next?
Those who were offered the vaccine but didn't take it need to isolate and get vaccinated. If tgey can't protect themselves then tough. Maybe tough times ahead for East London where vaccine take up is low.
 
grunge said:
Thing is tho there is no 1 science consensus. as this covers lots of fields.

You have the medical side that have side that are only there to give a medical view, they will always air on the side of caution and less deaths.

You have the data scientists. the ones that model things out. generally they themselves dont have an "opinion", Neil Ferguson is an example. he models statistical data nothing more but does keep getting asked for opinions. there will be others that are mapping out estimated dates for hitting herd immunity with vaccine cover, so on and so forth.

You then have the Virologist side, the ones working on vaccines etc and studying the path of the virus trying to predict where it goes and risks from variants etc.

You then have the Big data science guys who correlate all this data into advice for the Gov.

the roadmap dates will have been formed from all these things put together. a key factor will have been the mapping of herd immunity.


One of the biggest issues is that the Media will on the most part be talking to the medical experts. those more likely to be airing on the side of caution.
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Don't agree about Fergusson - he always overcooks the predictions pretty dramatically. His prediction success is quite frankly shit.
 
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