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Harry Kane
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HelloCity
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100+ mil for Kane, who is slowly coming out of his peak, or 100+ mil for Haaland, who hasn't even hit his peak?
There’s more to a signing than that though?
He might have already said he prefers to go to Spain next.
We might not want to shatter our wage structure.
If he doesn’t want to come then all we can do is focus on the next realistic target.
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It is seemingly more and more likely this is our target and that we will go all out to get him.
Soif the reason you don't want him is based on other strikers you like, or his fee, well may as well get over it, Pep and the club decide what they want and are willing to pay.
I still hold a hope that Haaland is a deal we have in mind for next year and the lad will not be leaving Dortmund this season, so am very relaxed about others signing him.
Soif the reason you don't want him is based on other strikers you like, or his fee, well may as well get over it, Pep and the club decide what they want and are willing to pay.
I still hold a hope that Haaland is a deal we have in mind for next year and the lad will not be leaving Dortmund this season, so am very relaxed about others signing him.
100+ mil for Kane, who is slowly coming out of his peak, or 100+ mil for Haaland, who hasn't even hit his peak?
Not even that slowly. His peak was 4 seasons ago. Still scores lots, but the overall tally is weighted by those couple seasons a good few years ago. I've not seen much to say he will get back to that, and I know there is the arguement that with the chances we create he would, which I accept. He is just as likely to score less though given he may (may) need to change what he does in a team built around him to suit the way we play.
Good post, and most likely what will happen if we sign him. I just don’t see him as the Messiah some seem to think he will beNot even that slowly. His peak was 4 seasons ago. Still scores lots, but the overall tally is weighted by those couple seasons a good few years ago. I've not seen much to say he will get back to that, and I know there is the arguement that with the chances we create he would, which I accept. He is just as likely to score less though given he may (may) need to change what he does in a team built around him to suit the way we play.
What exactly is the indication that Kane is slowly coming out of his peak? Also who is more likely to be a better fit, take less time and get going in our squad? Kane or Haaland?100+ mil for Kane, who is slowly coming out of his peak, or 100+ mil for Haaland, who hasn't even hit his peak?
What exactly is the indication that Kane is slowly coming out of his peak? Also who is more likely to be a better fit, take less time and get going in our squad? Kane or Haaland?
He went from scoring twenties to high twenties even hitting 30, to 17, 18 and low twenties. That is coming out of a peak whatever way you try spin it.
He might hit another peak, a second wave and all. He hit his ceiling 4 seasons ago, which is when his peak was, as it stands.
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Wasn't Kane top scorer and assiter this season? How is it past his peak?
He's not a pretty footballer by any stretch, but someone relentlessly putting away half chances and penalties is what we need.
Players of his ilk Drogba, Ibra, Lewandowski, Benzema tend to get better as they get to 30 as they don't rely on pace
He's not a pretty footballer by any stretch, but someone relentlessly putting away half chances and penalties is what we need.
Players of his ilk Drogba, Ibra, Lewandowski, Benzema tend to get better as they get to 30 as they don't rely on pace
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Who guarantees you that
a. you will GET haaland's peak and he won't leave before
b. haaland will reach his peak
c. haaland's peak will be better than kane's?
a. you will GET haaland's peak and he won't leave before
b. haaland will reach his peak
c. haaland's peak will be better than kane's?
Who guarantees you that
a. you will GET haaland's peak and he won't leave before
b. haaland will reach his peak
c. haaland's peak will be better than kane's?
a. true
b. true
c. His last season is already better than Kane's peak, so if he does nothing else and kane doesn't exceed his, it will have been better. Not that it matters.
Doesn't sound bad numbers when you take his assists into account as well. Also won golden boot this very recent season with 23.He went from scoring twenties to high twenties even hitting 30, to 17, 18 and low twenties. That is coming out of a peak whatever way you try spin it.
He might hit another peak, a second wave and all. He hit his ceiling 4 seasons ago, which is when his peak was, as it stands.
Let's also compare his numbers to top strikers in Prem since then? Last time he netted 29 in 16/17, the next golden boot winner was a winger in Salah with 32, followed by winners with no more than 22/23 goals, Aubameyang and Vardy being the only other strikers to win the golden boot with 22 each. I am failing to understand how a tally of 20 goals in Prem on average is bad and indicates he is falling off? Especially when those numbers went back up if anything to 22/23.
Kane even won playmaker of the year award last year. Maybe the argument is he's becoming a more complete striker, linking up play and helping out the team even more, and it would be scary to think the new heights he would reach at City under Guardiola. By the logic of your argument we should have also replaced Aguero in 2016 because he was never able to match the tally of 24 season before.
It's not a spin on anything, I'm just failing to see any good arguments made against Kane other than age and injury concerns, latter applicable to pretty much any signing.
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C. That's not true. Kane's consistent form has been in the PL not the Bundesliga. Therefore you can't say Haaland is already doing better based on last season. Plus, as we all know, Kane isn't just about scoring goals anymore.a. true
b. true
c. His last season is already better than Kane's peak, so if he does nothing else and kane doesn't exceed his, it will have been better. Not that it matters.
Doesn't sound bad numbers when you take his assists into account as well. Also won golden boot this very recent season with 23.
Let's also compare his numbers to top strikers in Prem since then? Last time he netted 29 in 16/17, the next golden boot winner was a winger in Salah with 32, followed by winners with no more than 22/23 goals, Aubameyang and Vardy being the only other strikers to win the golden boot with 22 each. I am failing to understand how a tally of 20 goals in Prem on average is bad and indicates he is falling off? Especially when those numbers went back up if anything to 22/23.
Kane even won playmaker of the year award last year. Maybe the argument is he's becoming a more complete striker, linking up play and helping out the team even more, and it would be scary to think the new heights he would reach at City under Guardiola. By the logic of your argument we should have also replaced Aguero in 2016 because he was never able to match the tally of 24 season before.
It's not a spin on anything, I'm just failing to see any good arguments made against Kane other than age and injury concerns, latter applicable to pretty much any signing.
Literally none of that is in any way relevant. It is absolutely un fucking debatable that his peak was 4 seasons ago.
That is not saying he is not good, or the top scorer last season or 7th the seasons before. It is just stating the obvious, his peak was when he scored the most goals and he has scored significantly less since.
C. That's not true. Kane's consistent form has been in the PL not the Bundesliga. Therefore you can't say Haaland is already doing better based on last season. Plus, as we all know, Kane isn't just about scoring goals anymore.
Thats not what I said though is it.
Pogba as a winger? LolTbf last season they where crying out for a rw. Rashford and martial both play on the left, Dan James is shite, pogba was even tried there. I think in this case signing a rw was absolutely something they needed to address.
I move more than him : )
Tugay One Cup
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Who guarantees you that
a. you will GET haaland's peak and he won't leave before
b. haaland will reach his peak
c. haaland's peak will be better than kane's?
Strange question. No guarantees in football.
Peaking in terms of stats is irrelevant to peaking in terms of a player. Again, just a forced argument. He is a much better player now than he was 4 years ago.Literally none of that is in any way relevant. It is absolutely un fucking debatable that his peak was 4 seasons ago.
That is not saying he is not good, or the top scorer last season or 7th the seasons before. It is just stating the obvious, his peak was when he scored the most goals and he has scored significantly less since.
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'His last season is already better than Kane's peak'.Thats not what I said though is it.
Not true.
Who knows what he wants.There’s more to a signing than that though?
He might have already said he prefers to go to Spain next.
We might not want to shatter our wage structure.
If he doesn’t want to come then all we can do is focus on the next realistic target.
Last week he was signing for Chelsea.
This week he’s signing for Real Madrid.