Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ayrshire_blue said:
She's been praised for clarity and transparency above anything else, which is fair in comparison to some others... Sadly Delta was allowed into the UK which she could do little to prevent given borders are a UK issue and here we are now. Also Scotland likely paying the price for having considerably lower antibody levels than elsewhere in the UK.

It doesn't make her beyond criticism though, and as Healdplace has commented on her remarks about not travelling to Bolton of all places seems strange given their cases are less to worry about than elsewhere in the same region. Like the UK government it seems to be based on data which is quite old. Its strange that we are able to paint a picture from Healdplace' daily numbers but the UK/Scot gov seem incapable of keeping up to date in doing so.
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You’d think if we were following the science they’d all stop using data that wasn’t as current as possible.
 
20 of those 23 deaths in England. 6 in the North West.

Those cases are the highest since 5 February and up 2460 in one day and 7949 up from 10, 321 last Saturday.

Also minus several hundred as Wales has not reported its numbers remember as it does not now do on Saturday.

There is certainly evidence that it is spreading far and wide across all areas and that has accelerated this week the numbers are now likely to go up steeply now for a week or two.

Also as Ayrshire said the Scotland hospital numbers increase are a concern as likely to be replicated across England now it is not just one region (north west) driving things.

None of this is a surprise. It was inevitable. But we have to see where it takes us in next 2 weeks.
 
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The week before, doctors in Rotterdam were reporting surprisingly large numbers of young infants presenting at A&E with the RS virus, something which is highly unusual in the summer since it usually presents in winter. Doctors attribute the rise to the fact that infants have spent an unusually long time secluded from others, so they are more susceptible.
 
Healdplace said:
But we have to see where it takes us in next 2 weeks.
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Deaths are already baked in for the next two weeks, and hospitalizations largely. The case trajectory is highly unlikely to suddenly change without a change in restrictions, though vaccinating should show itv somewhat.

A reasonable guess is that all three will be roughly double where they are now.

Optimistically, we'll see vaccinations impact them all a little.

Very optimistically, the effect on hospitalizations will be significant, as numbers go up a lot in u50s, and they'll go up a lot less than double.

We will see.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
Hopefully that will increase in the next few days as hundreds of walk in centres opened yesterday. Got my second jab on Friday
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UK is heading for one of the highest vax rates in the world but increasingly slowly.

It is good that other nations are overtaking the UK in terms of current vax rate. We need that to happen.
 
Every region seems up today as is no surprise.

North West only by 253 on day to 3693 but up wk to wk huge by 1155. Think that is the biggest wk to wk rise.

But the best news - GM only up by 7 of those 253 on the day - needsless to say way below par.

Week to week also the rise is 418 in GM - a lot - but actually well under half the expected number given the regional rise of 1155.

Whilst this means pretty much everyone in GM was up wk to wk there were plety who fell from yeyerday or did not rise by much.

However, Bury was the ONLY borough today not over 100. At 92.

Though Oldham, Salford, Stockport and Trafford were all down on yesterday.

Wigan sadly was up to its highest numbers since last winter (235) and Manchester to it second highest (383)
 
BerkshireBlue said:
But these have just had a load of unexpected A&E cases nothing to do with covid
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You asked for names of hospitals with black warning status and I gave you two. Job done.

There are a range of factors involved as I pointed out in my post. The reality is whatever increases demand puts an extra strain on the system. On the breakfast news the other day it featured an A&E that was being overwhelmed by nervous parents bringing their kids, most with minor ailments they suspected of being Covid. A few of the kids had significant ailments but they were well in the monitory.
 
Manchester33 said:
Because the whole isolation thing is incredibly pointless and full of loopholes.

Most people flying back from places like India stop off in other countries and switch airlines. You could be an air hostess on Etihad flying to and from Abu Dhabi a few times a week, no need to quarantine in a hotel, yet half the passengers on your flights do have to!

They haven't thought any of it through and there is no perfect system.
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Switching planes wouldn't absolve someone from India from the hotel quarantine.

Said passenger would have to spend at least 10 full days in whichever country they change planes to avoid the hotel quarantine thing.
 
The media Minister John Whittingdale has said that “People who are important,should be entitled to avoid tough quarantine rules when travelling to the UK”

"VIPs are only able to go to the football, they're not able to go and shop in the West End". Transport sec Grant Shapps defends the govt allowing football officials and VIP fans to attend games in the latter stages.

G7 leaders gather together, eat and drink whilst not even looking like they’re social distancing and not wearing masks (although all the staff were).

The health secretary and his number 1 go to modeller both caught breaching guidelines in the vital act of shagging around.

They‘re not even pretending they’re not taking the piss anymore.….
 
M18CTID said:
Yep. As concerning as the Scottish figures look in terms of increase in cases in pure numbers, the pattern with this variant seems to be that it rips through, peaks, and then starts to drop in a much shorter period of time than the previous waves. And it's infecting mainly younger people which is resulting in a lower percentage of serious illness and deaths. That's clearly down to the vaccine rollout. Another poster stated that it's Covid's last hurrah in the UK and he/she is probably right. I don't think we'll ever see "Zero Covid" but unless a vaccine resistant variant comes along, we've definitely seen off the worst of this virus in this country and lockdowns are a thing of the past IMO.
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The fact it is not causing that many deaths is purely down to vaccination.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Switching planes wouldn't absolve someone from India from the hotel quarantine.

Said passenger would have to spend at least 10 full days in whichever country they change planes to avoid the hotel quarantine thing.
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Turkey didn't quarantine anyone till May. They should have been o tge red list from mid March. That said France and other EU countries only put them on there red list in early May so - we aren't the only ones who are a bit slack on border controls.
 
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Cases across the regions:


Change in last 24 hrs V seven days ago

MORE RISES EVERYWHERE AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT


SOUTH


East DOWN 2 to 742 V 443

London UP 294 to 1993 V 1172 - almost doubling here

South East UP 250 to 1487 V 729 - double too

South West DOWN 12 to 1029 V 739






MIDLANDS



East UP 134 to 888 V 551

West UP 220 to 1478 V 659 - a big jump up in the Midlands








NORTH



North East UP 245 to 1417 V 742 - also doubled


Yorkshire UP 472 to 1996 V 991- - Yorkshire doubling now and set for 2000 + it seems.



AND

NORTH WEST UP 253 to 3693 V 2538



Past weeks NW numbers are 2538 - 2107 - 2441 - 2790 - 3620 - 3318 - 3440 - 3693

Equivalent NW numbers a week earlier 2191 - 2134 -2262 - 2017 - 2157 - 2858 - 2754 - 2538

GM numbers in past week 1151- 974 - 1086 - 1248 - 1606 - 1541 - 1572 - 1579


See how the gap between cases in GM versus cases in the NW has grown from 1387 a week ago to 2114 today.

Very visible evidence that GM is NOT rising to anything like the degree the NW is as a region. Though is still rising.
 
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