Jack Grealish

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CoE82 said:
Truthfully he would go with our blessing, and would get the deserved reception on his return to VP.

I think the reason Delph got abuse was he just signed a new contract and said he wasn't leaving and then within 7 days he'd gone, I think most fans regardless of who you support would be a little peed off.

Barry always got a great reception and milner also, I think it's how you leave, the other 2 were professional about it.

Regardless if the player is homegrown or brought in, I myself don't get attached to them, as at the end of tge day it's a job to them.
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Barry always got a great reception? Far from it.

www.theguardian.com

Shay Given condemns 'unfair' Aston Villa fans for baiting Gareth Barry

Manchester City goalkeeper Shay Given has hit out at the reaction of some Aston Villa fans towards Gareth Barry
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
If Jack Grealish left he'd have a bit of understanding but you just know it'd end up bitter.


Think about it from a Villa fan's perspective:

Jack Grealish is a Villa boy and club captain. Not only that, but Villa are a seriously ambitious (tm) club who are definitely going to be up there with the big boys extremely soon, with Grealish himself playing the central role. Jack Grealish is being offered a huge deal by Villa standards to stay.

From a Villa perspective, there is literally no reason why he would leave. If he can wait a year or two he'd be getting all the same medals he would at City, with more money, more prestige, and more honour, with the glory of doing at your boyhood club as captain and star man. At City, he'd just be a bench warmer with a couple Carabao Cups and a bunch of regrets as Villa march towards dominance.

If he goes it'll 100% be spun as he left for money. That's the ONLY reason he'd join, would be the argument.
 
Tanzeylee said:
I see once again after we are linked to a player the no mark supporters of the club come out of the woodwork spouting the usual bollocks, villa a big club do me a fucking favour Wigan have won more than them in the last 20 years, and as for their spam owners give me strength they'll be bleeding their club dry soon enough.
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Bang on. You know how it goes, Grealish stays at Villa for a season they hang around like a bad smell hoping that, on the off chance they beat us, they can offer some sage advice till the mask ultimately slips and they go too far and get banned. Grealish signs with us, they disappear like a fart in the wind, never to be sniffed again.
 
mccity said:
If Jack Grealish left he'd have a bit of understanding but you just know it'd end up bitter.


Think about it from a Villa fan's perspective:

Jack Grealish is a Villa boy and club captain. Not only that, but Villa are a seriously ambitious (tm) club who are definitely going to be up there with the big boys extremely soon, with Grealish himself playing the central role. Jack Grealish is being offered a huge deal by Villa standards to stay.

From a Villa perspective, there is literally no reason why he would leave. If he can wait a year or two he'd be getting all the same medals he would at City, with more money, more prestige, and more honour, with the glory of doing at your boyhood club as captain and star man. At City, he'd just be a bench warmer with a couple Carabao Cups and a bunch of regrets as Villa march towards dominance.

If he goes it'll 100% be spun as he left for money. That's the ONLY reason he'd join, would be the argument.
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I would suggest the Villa perspective is severely flawed.

Grealish cannot get the same medals as City, there’s only one set of medals per season to hand out. As City fans we know that Liverpool and United aren’t going anywhere. Chelsea look really strong. Wolves and Everton are also ambitious clubs and I haven’t mentioned Spurs, Leicester or Arsenal. To suggest those lot are just going to give in and move aside whilst Villa somehow circumvent FFP and build a team to challenge is a stretch of the imagination I cannot make. They haven’t arrived until The Dippers hack their scouting system.

Genuine question, how do you sell Birmingham to a World class footballer? It sounds like I’m point scoring, I’m not. The Midlands hasn’t had much in the way of European football for a few decades.

If Villa are going to challenge in the way you suggest then it’s going to take at least five years of serious squad investment, and I don’t mean Norwich City players.
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
I would suggest the Villa perspective is severely flawed.

Grealish cannot get the same medals as City, there’s only one set of medals per season to hand out. As City fans we know that Liverpool and United aren’t going anywhere. Chelsea look really strong. Wolves and Everton are also ambitious clubs and I haven’t mentioned Spurs, Leicester or Arsenal. To suggest those lot are just going to give in and move aside whilst Villa somehow circumvent FFP and build a team to challenge is a stretch of the imagination I cannot make. They haven’t arrived until The Dippers hack their scouting system.

Genuine question, how do you sell Birmingham to a World class footballer? It sounds like I’m point scoring, I’m not. The Midlands hasn’t had much in the way of European football for a few decades.

If Villa are going to challenge in the way you suggest then it’s going to take at least five years of serious squad investment, and I don’t mean Norwich City players.
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Well I guess that was the point of the post.

He was trying to show how deluded some villa fans can be
 
mccity said:
If Jack Grealish left he'd have a bit of understanding but you just know it'd end up bitter.


Think about it from a Villa fan's perspective:

Jack Grealish is a Villa boy and club captain. Not only that, but Villa are a seriously ambitious (tm) club who are definitely going to be up there with the big boys extremely soon, with Grealish himself playing the central role. Jack Grealish is being offered a huge deal by Villa standards to stay.

From a Villa perspective, there is literally no reason why he would leave. If he can wait a year or two he'd be getting all the same medals he would at City, with more money, more prestige, and more honour, with the glory of doing at your boyhood club as captain and star man. At City, he'd just be a bench warmer with a couple Carabao Cups and a bunch of regrets as Villa march towards dominance.

If he goes it'll 100% be spun as he left for money. That's the ONLY reason he'd join, would be the argument.
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Doesn't everyone who joins us comes for the Benjamin's and not the chance of winning things?
 
bluemc said:
Barry always got a great reception? Far from it.

www.theguardian.com

Shay Given condemns 'unfair' Aston Villa fans for baiting Gareth Barry

Manchester City goalkeeper Shay Given has hit out at the reaction of some Aston Villa fans towards Gareth Barry
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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I was there at VP for his 1st game back, the section I was in applauded him, there was a section that did that but not all, every team has its village idiots, no doubt city do.

The ones that applauded him did so as previous season there was the big scouse pool tap up on him, he agreed to see out the season and review from there, he did and gave his all for us, we were in bad times as the owner had lost interest, if you look back at that time we were in the top 6 season after season under oniell, if the owner hadn't of lost interest and really gone for it we could of broken the top 4 strangle hold at the time.

All if, buts and maybe's
 
CoE82 said:
Truthfully he would go with our blessing, and would get the deserved reception on his return to VP.

I think the reason Delph got abuse was he just signed a new contract and said he wasn't leaving and then within 7 days he'd gone, I think most fans regardless of who you support would be a little peed off.

Barry always got a great reception and milner also, I think it's how you leave, the other 2 were professional about it.

Regardless if the player is homegrown or brought in, I myself don't get attached to them, as at the end of tge day it's a job to them.
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At this point of the thread you've lost me, thought you were ok for a fan of another club, Barry & Milner were given shit by your lot without any doubt at all, you're either an armchair fan or off your tits.
 
manimanc said:
Doesn't everyone who joins us comes for the Benjamin's and not the chance of winning things?
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Maybe at the start as no matter how much you through at it you weren't guaranteed success, it was about selling them the vision/dream, and no doubt players signed just for the money, I'd say Tevez was 1, now ass much as the money is good/great you have the success and a great manager, so it doesn't all come down to the money anymore.

That's my 2 pence worth anyway
 
CoE82 said:
Barry always got a great reception and milner also, I think it's how you leave, the other 2 were professional about it.
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Rubbish! Milner got dogs abuse for years. Or don't you remember Villa fans waving wads of fake money at him during the matches?
 
blue b4 the moon said:
At this point of the thread you've lost me, thought you were ok for a fan of another club, Barry & Milner were given shit by your lot without any doubt at all, you're either an armchair fan or off your tits.
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You'll find milner was given a standing ovation on his last game for us, never kicked up a cuss and always gave 100%, we knew he was going and appreciated the way he did,, watch back to the west ham game that season, we won 3-0 if my memory is correct and he was MOTM by far,, before that game we knew he was going.

From the outside it may have looked different, but if you ask any villa fan,, they only ever and still do only talk positive about milner.

Like I said we were just entering our downward spiral so losing the players was always on the cards.

So maybe it's you that's an arm chair fan/Johnny come lately or off your tits :-)

Anyway been good chatting
 
CoE82 said:
You'll find milner was given a standing ovation on his last game for us, never kicked up a cuss and always gave 100%, we knew he was going and appreciated the way he did,, watch back to the west ham game that season, we won 3-0 if my memory is correct and he was MOTM by far,, before that game we knew he was going.

From the outside it may have looked different, but if you ask any villa fan,, they only ever and still do only talk positive about milner.

Like I said we were just entering our downward spiral so losing the players was always on the cards.

So maybe it's you that's an arm chair fan/Johnny come lately or off your tits :-)

Anyway been good chatting
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Full of it, won't be chatting again. I was at Villa when you lot were welcoming our lads, we shall I say have a differing view.

Good day to you.
 
What worries me is how this had been labelled by quite a few as a “done deal” Done deals don’t take this long.
 
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