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He sounds just like my whining brother in law.
So overworked on his 2 day a week NHS GP practice job.
Need a jab - kerching bonus.
Don’t refer to hospital - kerching bonus
Then coins it in doing private work for Barclaycard, insurance companies and his own two companies certifications drivers fitness and doing other H&S work.
How much of your mates is NHS work?
 
denislawsbackheel said:
He sounds just like my whining brother in law.
So overworked on his 2 day a week NHS GP practice job.
Need a jab - kerching bonus.
Don’t refer to hospital - kerching bonus
Then coins it in doing private work for Barclaycard, insurance companies and his own two companies certifications drivers fitness and doing other H&S work.
How much of your mates is NHS work?
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Got a share of a practice in a pretty shit area of London. We lived together a few years ago and I never heard mention of any private clients but I never asked if he had any. I did hear some pretty grim stories about the patients he did have, and he spent two nights a week doing home visits to people who couldn't get to the clinic itself. not everyone who makes a decent wage is a ****.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
I don’t know of any GP that works a 5 day week in the NHS.
Most do 2/3 days and the rest is for extremely lucrative private work hammocity has described.
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Absolute nonsense. That GP is in the minority and is likely working under APMS (private company on fixed term services contract). The vast majority of GPs are independent contractors who work exclusively under contract for the NHS.
 
metalblue said:
Absolute nonsense. That GP is in the minority and is likely working under APMS (private company on fixed term services contract). The vast majority of GPs are independent contractors who work exclusively under contract for the NHS.
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My GP wanted £130 quid to fill in a form. Now I'm getting mails positively begging me not to go and see them. 4 I've had so far.

Don't get me started on booking an appointment on line last time it took 30 mins to do what a phone call would have achieved in 30 seconds.
 
It’s amazing how some people’s view of the NHS is based solely on their local GP. According to google there’s around 31k GPs of 1.1m NHs staff. About 3% or something then.
 
bugsyblue said:
It’s amazing how some people’s view of the NHS is based solely on their local GP. According to google there’s around 31k GPs of 1.1m NHs staff. About 3% or something then.
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Whose views on the NHS are based solely on GP's? Looked at the thread and can't see where anyone has said it.

If you could quote it that would be great.
 
hilts said:
My GP wanted £130 quid to fill in a form. Now I'm getting mails positively begging me not to go and see them. 4 I've had so far.

Don't get me started on booking an appointment on line last time it took 30 mins to do what a phone call would have achieved in 30 seconds.
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Go private fella. It seems like it would suit you.
 
Pedestrian said:
You don’t seem satisfied with the NHS. You could always go to a private doctor.
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Some don’t read or are just downright stupid

Me - my GP wanted 130 quid for 10 mins work to fill out a form, bit pricey that

You - you don’t seem satisfied with the nhs


Pillock
 
hilts said:
Some don’t read or are just downright stupid

Me - my GP wanted 130 quid for 10 mins work to fill out a form, bit pricey that

You - you don’t seem satisfied with the nhs


Pillock
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I hope you paid it and said thanks you absolute muppet. I would have to you to fuck off and sign it yourself. Only you wouldn’t have been able to because you’re not a doctor.
 
Pedestrian said:
I hope you paid it and said thanks you absolute muppet. I would have to you to fuck off and sign it yourself. Only you wouldn’t have been able to because you’re not a doctor.
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No I didn’t because I’m not a mug, I would ask you to explain why you think 2 days pay is fair to take off someone to fill in a form but you are either an nhs employee with a shit attitude, a wum or just plain daft.
 
hilts said:
No I didn’t because I’m not a mug, I would ask you to explain why you think 2 days pay is fair to take off someone to fill in a form but you are either an nhs employee with a shit attitude, a wum or just plain daft.
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The form needed the authority of a qualified doctor. That doctor can charge whatever they like just like anyone else providing a service. Becoming a doctor is not cheap or easy. The pay they receive represents this. Go private and see what they charge you then. Check out medical bills in the states for comparison. Have a bit of respect for those folk that actually help others as a career choice. You sound like a twat.
 
Pedestrian said:
The form needed the authority of a qualified doctor. That doctor can charge whatever they like just like anyone else providing a service. Becoming a doctor is not cheap or easy. The pay they receive represents this. Go private and see what they charge you then. Check out medical bills in the states for comparison. Have a bit of respect for those folk that actually help others as a career choice. You sound like a twat.
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You sound like a Tory in fairness. How can a doctor possibly survive on 100k plus for 30 years say, just a few million quid without having to take money out of working class folks back pocket. 2 or 3 days pay for a form. And your answer is if you don’t like it tough.

There is only one twat here pal and it’s you. What do you say to homeless folk? Get a job maybe. Don’t lecture me on caring with your grubby morals.
 
Havent seen the whole thread. The NHS is amazing and is staffed with wonderful people working hard in tough conditions. Anyone arguing against that? Wouldnt surprise me
 
hilts said:
You sound like a Tory in fairness. How can a doctor possibly survive on 100k plus for 30 years say, just a few million quid without having to take money out of working class folks back pocket. 2 or 3 days pay for a form. And your answer is if you don’t like it tough.

There is only one twat here pal and it’s you. What do you say to homeless folk? Get a job maybe. Don’t lecture me on caring with your grubby morals
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You were asked to pay £130 for that form to be signed because it needed the authority of someone who has sacrificed a lot of time and picked up a lot of debt to get to the lofty heights of authorising your form. Appreciate folk who choose caring for others as a career and stop being a selfish twat because you had to pay for something. You sound like a utter cretin. You’ll need those doctors one day. You’ll be thankful they’ve sacrificed a lot of their life to be able to help you.
 
Pedestrian said:
You were asked to pay £130 for that form to be signed because it needed the authority of someone who has sacrificed a lot of time and picked up a lot of debt to get to the lofty heights of authorising your form. Appreciate folk who choose caring for others as a career and stop being a selfish twat because you had to pay for something. You sound like a utter cretin. You’ll need those doctors one day. You’ll be thankful they’ve sacrificed a lot of their life to be able to help you.
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You must be a GP to come out with that horseshit, maybe we can have a tipping system you know to help them out a bit financially. By the way I didn’t pay it I already stated that but being slow and frothing at the mouth can be a distraction in life. Maybe see a GP about that. Make sure you doff your cap on the way out.


Pmsl
 
Pedestrian said:
You were asked to pay £130 for that form to be signed because it needed the authority of someone who has sacrificed a lot of time and picked up a lot of debt to get to the lofty heights of authorising your form. Appreciate folk who choose caring for others as a career and stop being a selfish twat because you had to pay for something. You sound like a utter cretin. You’ll need those doctors one day. You’ll be thankful they’ve sacrificed a lot of their life to be able to help you.
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They aren't just charging for their time either. They may need their secretary to assist, but of course only the doctors are revenue generators.

The reason patients have to pay is because the NHS will not cover the cost of this sort of work, he told the BBC.

"The NHS provides general medical services. Letters for patients for third parties are not a health service," Dr Holden said.

"This is not money into the doctor's pocket. This is the gross turnover of the practice. Who's going to pay the secretary to type the letter? Who's going to pay the receptionist to sort it out?"

The GP is the only member of staff in the practice who generates external income, whether from the NHS or private sources, he added.

"Anything you do that is not part of the NHS, you have to recuperate your time and your overheads from somewhere - there is only one place and that is from the patient."

Dr Holden said it is widely accepted that a GP needs to earn a gross pay of "over £200 an hour" to keep a surgery open, and that writing even a short letter is not as straightforward as it may appear.

"What people forget is even for a one-liner the General Medical Council requires we verify that what we say and sign is true. That means a trawl through the notes to confirm that it's true.

"That takes time. The production of a one-liner can easily take 20 minutes," he said.

However Dr Holden did acknowledge that some doctors do charge too much, and blamed the introduction of the 1998 Competition Act for creating a "free for all".

"Some doctors will be very reasonable and one or two will be overstepping the mark and I do not condone that," he said.

"When the Competition Act came in, we said this would cause this kind of problem. The fact is the government said 'no, it has to be free for all
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hilts said:
You must be a GP to come out with that horseshit, maybe we can have a tipping system you know to help them out a bit financially. By the way I didn’t pay it I already stated that but being slow and frothing at the mouth can be a distraction in life. Maybe see a GP about that. Make sure you doff your cap on the way out.


Pmsl
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Pathetic.
 
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