Jack Grealish

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VillaFan107 said:
Hi Villa fan here, just to bring a bit of clarity:
This isn’t true, No villa fan thinks 200m + KDB is a suitable offer. Think most are in the camp £120m, although there are strong rumours (denied by our manager and CEO) that he has a buyout clause. If that’s £100m, he goes for £100m. Our fans don’t think Foden isn’t half the player Grealish is. IMO, they are similar ability now, Foden has higher ceiling.

here’s the Villa take on the transfer:
Just as you have your ITK’s saying Grealish is a done deal, our ITK’s are saying he’s 100% staying/signed a deal a few weeks back. So invariably, whenever talksport post “Grealish to Man City done deal £100m” neutrals (and City fans) bet on it, the odds shorten, Villa fans see the odds widening and think “I can make some good money here”. So there’s a constant shortening and widening of the odds.

also I guess you guys probably missed it but Collymoore who sat with Jack’s dad at the Euro semis basically indicated to Twitter he’d signed/signing a new deal at Villa. He also posted a picture with Jack after the final saying he couldn’t wait to see him in a Villa shirt next season. If Jack was to turn round and go City now, Collymoore has either been on a massive wind up, or Jack has suddenly changed his mind. We’ve had it before (with Delph) but this would hurt more coming from a local lad.
But that’s where we are, there’s a fair amount of delusion in every fan base and Man City is certainly no exception. The good thing is he is back from Croatia this weekend so we’ll know the score by Monday/Tuesday.
Don’t gamble anything you’re not willing to lose.
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Ah the woman beating, dogging **** that is Collymore, forgive me if the utterings from that clowns mouth doesn’t convince me.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I have no gripes with Villa, if he stays good for you. I would just say, i think you have to take anything low life Collymore says with a pinch of salt.
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Appreciate he is a low life, but the info he’s given has come from Jack’s Dad/Jack. Could be telling huge lies though.
 
VillaFan107 said:
Maybe they want to wait till after holiday (to do the media stuff), maybe it hasn’t and they’re using the media leaks to get a better contract, maybe he’s off to City and hasn’t signed a new deal. I don’t know
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If you was Jack,would you turn us down and sign a new deal at Villa?
Would you let all them potential winner medals slip through your fingers,just to stay at your boyhood club?
Virtually every player Pep has coached,has said he's improved them,would you turn that chance down?
Genuine question.
 
VillaFan107 said:
Villa have never said he’s available at X, this is not true. The fans are worried because everyday another ITK/the Sun/Sammy Lee say it’s advanced when 2 weeks ago it was done.
I don’t think the club are worried at all, they’ll know if he’s off or not
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The one consistent thing in the reporting has been the 100m asking price - could be a release clause or just Villa's valuation but every bit of reporting from either side has been pay 100m and he's free to go. That's the same as saying he's available at 100m. Semantics yes, but still the truth.

And tbh mate, if your source is that horrible prat Collymore, we may as well get the City club shop stocked with the extra E's ;)
 
VillaFan107 said:
Hi Villa fan here, just to bring a bit of clarity:
This isn’t true, No villa fan thinks 200m + KDB is a suitable offer. Think most are in the camp £120m, although there are strong rumours (denied by our manager and CEO) that he has a buyout clause. If that’s £100m, he goes for £100m. Our fans don’t think Foden isn’t half the player Grealish is. IMO, they are similar ability now, Foden has higher ceiling.

here’s the Villa take on the transfer:
Just as you have your ITK’s saying Grealish is a done deal, our ITK’s are saying he’s 100% staying/signed a deal a few weeks back. So invariably, whenever talksport post “Grealish to Man City done deal £100m” neutrals (and City fans) bet on it, the odds shorten, Villa fans see the odds widening and think “I can make some good money here”. So there’s a constant shortening and widening of the odds.

also I guess you guys probably missed it but Collymoore who sat with Jack’s dad at the Euro semis basically indicated to Twitter he’d signed/signing a new deal at Villa. He also posted a picture with Jack after the final saying he couldn’t wait to see him in a Villa shirt next season. If Jack was to turn round and go City now, Collymoore has either been on a massive wind up, or Jack has suddenly changed his mind. We’ve had it before (with Delph) but this would hurt more coming from a local lad.
But that’s where we are, there’s a fair amount of delusion in every fan base and Man City is certainly no exception. The good thing is he is back from Croatia this weekend so we’ll know the score by Monday/Tuesday.
Don’t gamble anything you’re not willing to lose.
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If that was true:

City: "Is Grealish for sale? Oh you know, lad with the hair band and tight shorts?... LITTLE SHINPADS!!?"

Villa: "Oh him? He doesn't want to leave and has signed a new contract mate"

City: "OK, fair enough, bye"
 
hammocity said:
My mate is a pretty good punter, subsides his income with it but he's finding it more difficult to get on. He's done some arb betting but was getting restricted on that. A few weeks ago he wanted £15 ew on a 16/1 chance, I think it was Ladbrokes, they offered him £2.50 win only at SP!

I think you need quite a bit of time to make the arb work don't you and need to spread over many bookmakers?
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I’ve hsd every account under the sun . Mcbookie been the most Random !!!

a Scottish bookmakers lol.

my fav arb would to go to the 6 different bet Fred’s in town and back the boosts then lay them on the exchanges
 
OliMCFC said:
If Jack was staying, I'm convinced Villa would've indicated so in their briefings. Instead they're saying 'we don't want to sell but he's available at X but we're offering a new deal in hopes he stays'

Villa are panicked about losing him, not the sign of a club who thinks their star player is about to sign a new deal.

TL;DR: Villa must know he's off/seriously considering it because they sound very worried
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Why do you think Villa are panicked?

They have spent and are looking to spend even more money this summer, perhaps they know full well Grealish is off and have laid the ground work for replacements and improving their squad.

IF they manage to get 100m for him, that is some deal in this climate and in my opinion however good he has been for them, it's an offer that is too good to turn down.

They lose their main man, but can bring in 3-4 tops class players, which significantly improves them long term.

And losing John Terry can only be a positive.
 
Keeper! said:
Collymore the player was a disgrace.

A wonderfully gifted footballer, superb athlete, but a complete , lazy , ignorant idiot.

He signed for his beloved Villa and what did he do? Nothing just like the rest of his sad career.

How and why anyone employs this fool is simply beyond me.

He even makes Danny Mills look credible.
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Tbh the crock of s***t talksport employ I’d say he fits right in!
 
VillaFan107 said:
yeah, probably has slightly better connections (that’s Jacks Dad) than your graphic designers…
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I know you don’t want to believe it but JG is moving to City. Dogger is full of shit.

The spin is on to try and dampen his departure. If truth be told JG has tried to move to Spurs, United and now City.

Loyalty to 1 club is very rare. Look at Kane.
 
Keeper! said:
Why do you think Villa are panicked?

They have spent and are looking to spend even more money this summer, perhaps they know full well Grealish is off and have laid the ground work for replacements and improving their squad.

IF they manage to get 100m for him, that is some deal in this climate and in my opinion however good he has been for them, it's an offer that is too good to turn down.

They lose their main man, but can bring in 3-4 tops class players, which significantly improves them long term.

And losing John Terry can only be a positive.
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Maybe panicked the wrong word but which club wouldn't be worried about losing their star player, captain, talisman etc etc. Even with 100m burning a hole in their pocket and the ability to make full squad improvements, losing Grealish significantly weakens Villa and their whole negotiating stance. In the same way we market ourselves to new players as being coached by Pep and playing with KDB, they obviously say to new signings you can play with JG. Losing him is a worry for a club like them, however good (which it is!) the deal is
 
VillaFan107 said:
Appreciate he is a low life, but the info he’s given has come from Jack’s Dad/Jack. Could be telling huge lies though.
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Signing another contract within a year of signing his last one. Clearly there is misinformation somewhere along the line
 
VillaFan107 said:
Hi Villa fan here, just to bring a bit of clarity:
This isn’t true, No villa fan thinks 200m + KDB is a suitable offer. Think most are in the camp £120m, although there are strong rumours (denied by our manager and CEO) that he has a buyout clause. If that’s £100m, he goes for £100m. Our fans don’t think Foden isn’t half the player Grealish is. IMO, they are similar ability now, Foden has higher ceiling.

here’s the Villa take on the transfer:
Just as you have your ITK’s saying Grealish is a done deal, our ITK’s are saying he’s 100% staying/signed a deal a few weeks back. So invariably, whenever talksport post “Grealish to Man City done deal £100m” neutrals (and City fans) bet on it, the odds shorten, Villa fans see the odds widening and think “I can make some good money here”. So there’s a constant shortening and widening of the odds.

also I guess you guys probably missed it but Collymoore who sat with Jack’s dad at the Euro semis basically indicated to Twitter he’d signed/signing a new deal at Villa. He also posted a picture with Jack after the final saying he couldn’t wait to see him in a Villa shirt next season. If Jack was to turn round and go City now, Collymoore has either been on a massive wind up, or Jack has suddenly changed his mind. We’ve had it before (with Delph) but this would hurt more coming from a local lad.
But that’s where we are, there’s a fair amount of delusion in every fan base and Man City is certainly no exception. The good thing is he is back from Croatia this weekend so we’ll know the score by Monday/Tuesday.
Don’t gamble anything you’re not willing to lose.
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I enjoyed your post till the bit on Collymore. He is a pathological liar and fantasist. I wouldn't believe a single word he said. He's the man who posted a picture of a broken snake when Delph suffered a career-threatening injury. He represents everything bad about the modern football media.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
If you was Jack,would you turn us down and sign a new deal at Villa?
Would you let all them potential winner medals slip through your fingers,just to stay at your boyhood club?
Virtually every player Pep has coached,has said he's improved them,would you turn that chance down?
Genuine question.
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I would stay at Villa 100%. If I were a Barry, Delph, Milner and had no prior affinity to the club, then yeah, go win trophies.
but Grealish and his family have a deep rooted love for the football club. And no doubt, he could go to you and win 2-3 trophies every year. But would it mean more to win that one trophy or captain us back into the top 4 for example.
He signed a new deal after we came 17th because he believes in the project. We know have an unlimited pot to piss in (not as big as yours but not too far off). We’ve improved year on year and until Grealish stops believing in the project, I think he stays. I could well be wrong but that’s the feeling I get
 
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