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It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders
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To be fair, the Villa chairman came out and said that the offer excepted from Manchester City was £100,000,000.I don’t believe the fee, it’s all guesswork currently and no official comment has been made yet - let’s see when the accounts come out
B\connellblue
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So why Pep didnt pick him at the start of the last 2 seasons ? only when the alternatives had failed miserably did he start to pick him regularly.The thing is, Zin isn't a traditional left sided full back. He's a Pep Guardiola left sided full back. Different animals. .
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Pep would prefer to have two Dani Alveses. They aren’t available, so he’s compromised and got one full back with speed to cover the high line and the other to create and tuck in to cover the 6 position.Spot on. This forum is very guilty of looking at players from other clubs and imagining that in our team completely ignoring the fact they would not be askedor even allowed to do those things. Many did it when Robertson and TAA were getting all the plaudits and it's not just fullback either we do it all over the pitch.
Pep wants his fullback to do exactly what zinchenko does, he doesn't want flying fullbacks, he choose to let angelino go because he didn't want that, we've got cancelo who made his name doing that at juventus and we have him in midfield. Left back is not an issue. I question whether the people that think a left back is required actually watch us play.
To be fair, the Villa chairman came out and said that the offer excepted from Manchester City was £100,000,000.
How that’s made up is very important though and again I think we are seeing the press take the highest possible figure rather than the base plus milestone payments possible.
Just my view but will be interesting when we see the accounts, I don’t think it’s a straight up £100 million transfer still, I’m guessing 75 million plus £25 million in appearance, goals, league titles, cups and champions league bonus payments.
It was a release clause though. Flat 100.How that’s made up is very important though and again I think we are seeing the press take the highest possible figure rather than the base plus milestone payments possible.
Just my view but will be interesting when we see the accounts, I don’t think it’s a straight up £100 million transfer still, I’m guessing 75 million plus £25 million in appearance, goals, league titles, cups and champions league bonus payments.
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I would call Walker a traditional full back personally.Hallelujah!
Someone else actually gets it. We've not actually needed a 'traditional' left or right back since Pep arrived.
The modern game is won and lost in midfield.
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Yes. He's the definition on a flying fullback. He'll fly forward on an overlap and put a cross into a box. We have 3 types of fullbacks and all have their purposes. Walker is used mainly for his defence, but will go forward and put in a cross into the box. The inverted fullback like Zinch is used as an extra holding midfielder. The third is like Mendy who hugs the touchline high and wide. He creates width to let the winger come narrow and overload the side. In reality you'd want the fullback to be capable to do all 3 jobs for what the tactics require. The closest thing we have doing it is Cancelo although he can be dodgy defensively.I would call Walker a traditional full back personally.
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Came here to sate my giddiness for the completion of the worst kept secret in football. What do I find, yet another dull discussion on Zinchenko!
Ride the waves, blue boys, ride the waves. Enjoy being top of the food chain and feel the bitterness from the others because it will never last for ever. Every one of this team are heroes and legends.
Ride the waves, blue boys, ride the waves. Enjoy being top of the food chain and feel the bitterness from the others because it will never last for ever. Every one of this team are heroes and legends.
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That is what Villa are projecting, certainly.It was a release clause though. Flat 100.
Lavinda Past
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Maybe he was at Spurs, but under Pep, he has developed greater flexibility in his game to include central defensive and midfield roles.I would call Walker a traditional full back personally.
He's far more than a traditional full back, and that's why he kèeps Cancelo out of the starting line-up.
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Like Ferna, I’m dreading the day we finally have to replace Kyle. I can’t think of anyone around at the minute who can do what he doesMaybe he was at Spurs, but under Pep, he has developed greater flexibility in his game to include central defensive and midfield roles.
He's far more than a traditional full back, and that's why he kèeps Cancelo out of the starting line-up.
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So why Pep didnt pick him at the start of the last 2 seasons ? only when the alternatives had failed miserably did he start to pick him regularly.
When you boil your statement down BcB, you've answered your own question. Quite simply, he was the best option we had.
He isn't perfect in that role I agree, although he's started to play there for his national side I noticed. By no means is he a traditional left back, he simply does not have the physique for starters, but most games he gets away with it, and when he's not being pushed too hard by the opposition, his link up play for us down the left side is excellent. IMO, at the present, he is the best option we have in that role.
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The game, old, modern, and everything in between is won and lost in the box.Hallelujah!
Someone else actually gets it. We've not actually needed a 'traditional' left or right back since Pep arrived.
The modern game is won and lost in midfield.
He was injured for most of the first half of last season. Came into the team pretty promptly after finding fitness.So why Pep didnt pick him at the start of the last 2 seasons ? only when the alternatives had failed miserably did he start to pick him regularly.
Why do you keep posting this?
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David de Gea – Manchester United, £375,000 per week. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a click bait headline. Poisonous wanker.
Sorry. I'm just interested in others peoples take on it as its rubs me the wrong way that we would give him wages like that.Why do you keep posting this?
That's ok. But for future reference one post per subforum is more than enough.Sorry. I'm just interested in others peoples take on it as its rubs me the wrong way that we would give him wages like that.
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