See, my only question is. Where do City stand on Haaland? I get soon as they heard of Kane wanting a move to us it was just all him and no one else. But surely, we'd not have lost interest in Haaland just a few months after talks of seriously pursuing him, surely they knew Kane would not be as easy as well, or is it just the Dortmund factor putting us off negotiating with them? All speculation aside.
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Why are people so bothered at the slightest mention of Haaland? I understand he’s probably not available now. We’re still allowed to discuss him. And no one needs to defend Kane like a son or a brother yet. He isn’t our player yet. We can talk about these situations in all of their complexitiesHaaland has to want to come to City for us to be actually interested in him, if neither the club or player are moving an inch why would we bother? The FIRST move from Haaland's camp after season was to travel to La Liga and shop him around ffs. Now he's not available for sale, some of you lot won't give up.
BillyShears
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Perhaps irrelevant in the immediate future, not so long term.
A year is a longtime in football. Kane sorts the next Three or four minimum which is more than enough.
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You’re wasting your time on that one. He’d have a meltdown if we switched to Lukaku claiming it’s a panic buy and we didn’t research Kane properly and therefore had no plan. He’ll drain your life force if you engage him. Best to hit the ignore button.Well, Haaland simply isn't available, that's unfortunately the case here. Hence they moved for Lukaku, who obviously fits them down to a t. They could have come for Kane btw, but they did not. That tells me they know who his preference is and where he'd go to if a transfer occurred.
Let's give it a bit more time, I would panic if it was the last week of transfer window with no striker.
I'm sorry, but tough moments are where a player's true personality shows. Bernardo's alleged unsettled state has been since the Mendy/socials incident and he could not handle being called a racist. His form dropped that season as well, and what was his first response? I want out, I want Barcelona. Albeit, he stayed another season, had a good run for a couple months, and now, his state is, he still wants gone. That is pathetic behaviour. We are not the ones binning him btw, we know his quality, we kno what he's capable of, but where's his love for us? Change of scenery is the easiest way out of a club. He's challenging for everything he can possibly dream of at City, he won't be getting an upgrade elsewhere, he's loved and adored by the squad and Pep, but if he's still not satisfied, I'm sorry, fuck him. He can go, and anyone else sharing that sentiment can piss off as well. This is what I love about Pep, he wants his players to be fully committed, if they're not, he doesn't give a single fuck about their ego.You sound like a Villa fan. Bernardo has given his best for us over a number of seasons. He has been a big part of us winning lots of trophies. He wants a change in scenery. Fair play to the bloke.
There's no issue in discussing, just making sure the facts are know, at least. I rate Haaland, I would love him at City but there's factors init. It's not like we'd get some 3rd rate player in Arry, we would have the best striker in the league by some distance. And under Pep, oof. How can you not be excited over that?Why are people so bothered at the slightest mention of Haaland? I understand he’s probably not available now. We’re still allowed to discuss him. And no one needs to defend Kane like a son or a brother yet. He isn’t our player yet. We can talk about these situations in all of their complexities
I get it. Haaland is a weird and rare combination of having City connections and being the modern generational talent complete with Raiola as an agent and all the hype that surrounds his clients. The kids are absolutely wet for him.
It's nothing to do with "hype", it's to do with numbers, plain and simple. He's broken several CL goalscoring records and he has the speed of an olympic sprinter. He's clearly a better striker than Kane.
Irrelevant anyway as he's shown his main motivation is money. He'll end up at United.
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People seem to think Haaland will be the only good striker around in 4 years time its bizarre. Who knows who will emerge in those years. Perhaps even our own Liam Delap will have a Kane like explosion onto the scene at the top level.A year is a longtime in football. Kane sorts the next Three or four minimum which is more than enough.
BillyShears
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See, my only question is. Where do City stand on Haaland? I get soon as they heard of Kane wanting a move to us it was just all him and no one else. But surely, we'd not have lost interest in Haaland just a few months after talks of seriously pursuing him, surely they knew Kane would not be as easy as well, or is it just the Dortmund factor putting us off negotiating with them? All speculation aside.
Dortmund aren't selling this summer, and we are buying a 9 this summer. For me it's that simple really. The key was them qualifying for the CL. Soon as that happened I think it became apparent that he wasn't going to be on the market.
Also notwithstanding that, its obvious that Pep personally wants Kane. So the club will focus on getting him (I think he ends the window a City player FWIW).
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I think the club agree with your sentiments in regards Bernardo, but he's going nowhere unless a suitable bid comes in from another club, which at the moment, just doesn't seem to be happening.I'm sorry, but tough moments are where a player's true personality shows. Bernardo's alleged unsettled state has been since the Mendy/socials incident and he could not handle being called a racist. His form dropped that season as well, and what was his first response? I want out, I want Barcelona. Albeit, he stayed another season, had a good run for a couple months, and now, his state is, he still wants gone. That is pathetic behaviour. We are not the ones binning him btw, we know his quality, we kno what he's capable of, but where's his love for us? Change of scenery is the easiest way out of a club. He's challenging for everything he can possibly dream of at City, he won't be getting an upgrade elsewhere, he's loved and adored by the squad and Pep, but if he's still not satisfied, I'm sorry, fuck him. He can go, and anyone else sharing that sentiment can piss off as well. This is what I love about Pep, he wants his players to be fully committed, if they're not, he doesn't give a single fuck about their ego.
r.soleofsalford
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It’s not the same situation, especially politically, but Barcelona last year wouldn’t let Messi go and they definitely owe way more than Spurs and it certainly cost them. Ego plays a big part in all of this. And let’s be honest, FOR THEM, Kane or no Kane basically defines what their ambitions this season will be
I agree with that to some extent but Barca are defined by Messi while as you said, Kane or no Kane basically defines what Spurs ambitions this season will be.
The pressure on Barca is coming in part from Real Madrid and their acolytes in La Liga. less from the banks.
Spur are getting pressure to sell from their creditors.
Obviously this is only my opinion.
Complete tosh.I get it. Haaland is a weird and rare combination of having City connections and being the modern generational talent complete with Raiola as an agent and all the hype that surrounds his clients. The kids are absolutely wet for him.
Haaland is a generational talent at this time, who his daddy used to play for is utterly irrelevant.
He is a beast and looks one hell of a player, and as a football fan you can't see that, says a lot about your opinions.
Getting him is another story, his motivation may well be money, he may not want to play for us, no problem.
But to question his ability and talent is plain wrong.
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How do you know he wants to leave because of the tweet fiasco? To me it seems much more of a family/lifestyle decision than anything at all to do with the tweet. You have to put your happiness first sometimes. He’s a human just like the rest of us and has real emotions. I doubt being couped up indoors on your own in a pretty miserable city, in another country to your family (whilst they were largely unable to travel to you and vice versa), for over 18 months makes you keen to remain there. Different people will have dealt with lockdown differently. Maybe he’s just decided to re-prioritise a few things? We really don’t know. Im just saying it’s unfair to just say “fuck him”.I'm sorry, but tough moments are where a player's true personality shows. Bernardo's alleged unsettled state has been since the Mendy/socials incident and he could not handle being called a racist. His form dropped that season as well, and what was his first response? I want out, I want Barcelona. Albeit, he stayed another season, had a good run for a couple months, and now, his state is, he still wants gone. That is pathetic behaviour. We are not the ones binning him btw, we know his quality, we kno what he's capable of, but where's his love for us? Change of scenery is the easiest way out of a club. He's challenging for everything he can possibly dream of at City, he won't be getting an upgrade elsewhere, he's loved and adored by the squad and Pep, but if he's still not satisfied, I'm sorry, fuck him. He can go, and anyone else sharing that sentiment can piss off as well. This is what I love about Pep, he wants his players to be fully committed, if they're not, he doesn't give a single fuck about their ego.
It's a sad state of affairs. I genuinely love Bernardo, but where's the fight? I hope he's able to put aside his emotions and give his all again coming season. Him being in our side keeps us stronger.I think the club agree with your sentiments in regards Bernardo, but he's going nowhere unless a suitable bid comes in from another club, which at the moment, just doesn't seem to be happening.
BillyShears
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It's nothing to do with "hype", it's to do with numbers, plain and simple. He's broken several CL goalscoring records and he has the speed of an olympic sprinter. He's clearly a better striker than Kane.
Irrelevant anyway as he's shown his main motivation is money. He'll end up at United.
Yes it's irrelevant as we're not signing him.
Where's the fight?It's a sad state of affairs. I genuinely love Bernardo, but where's the fight? I hope he's able to put aside his emotions and give his all again coming season. Him being in our side keeps us stronger.
The guy has sweated blood for the cause since the day he arrived.
Manchester is not Utopia, it amazes me that a guy from Portugal could stand a week in Manchester never mind 3 years.
Hard to argue Bernardo has no fight. He hasn’t hit same heights as his first season in the last two but no one could argue he doesn’t give his all. If he does end up staying I’m certain he will as well.It's a sad state of affairs. I genuinely love Bernardo, but where's the fight? I hope he's able to put aside his emotions and give his all again coming season. Him being in our side keeps us stronger.
If he does go, I would welcome him back with appreciation.
Clearly when Pep says 3 or 4 want to go, 4 players won’t leave. He’s said something similar before to ensure the squad is all fighting to secure a place in the side.
Someone said it yesterday, Jesus might play better as a support striker in the games he plays wide for example.
Fair enough. But he's not the first foreign player to play for Manchester City, how do players cope with such hardships at top clubs then? Do they simply just get an exit or move after a bad season? He does know getting a move isn't easy, so all I'm saying is, he should have all his focus on the club. If he goes, good luck to him, but it's would be a very disappointing exit to say the least, and the manner of it as well.How do you know he wants to leave because of the tweet fiasco? To me it seems much more of a family/lifestyle decision than anything at all to do with the tweet. You have to put your happiness first sometimes. He’s a human just like the rest of us and has real emotions. I doubt being couped up indoors on your own in a pretty miserable city, in another country to your family, for over 18 months makes you keen to remain there. Different people will have dealt with lockdown differently. Maybe he’s just decided to re-prioritise a few things? We really don’t know. Im just saying it’s unfair to just say “fuck him”.
What that's got to do with the "kids" wanting him?Yes it's irrelevant as we're not signing him.
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You constantly imply Pep prefers Kane over Haaland as if he told you that personally. And then you say Haaland isn’t available this summer. There is a contradiction there. It may be that Kane all along was the backup and like Chelsea we came to the conclusion financially the numbers wouldn’t work and decided for a plan B that still made sense.Dortmund aren't selling this summer, and we are buying a 9 this summer. For me it's that simple really. The key was them qualifying for the CL. Soon as that happened I think it became apparent that he wasn't going to be on the market.
Also notwithstanding that, its obvious that Pep personally wants Kane. So the club will focus on getting him (I think he ends the window a City player FWIW).