It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

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I'm starting to be seriously concerned that we might sign Ronaldo.

I've spent 2 years in lockdown trying to avoid a virus and then one turns up at our door. I genuinely would rather have nobody than him.

He should go to United. He's the physical embodiment of their supreme arrogance. Can you imagine him scoring and the South Stand belting out Viva Ronaldo? It makes me physically ill just thinking about.

I'm not bitter. Ronaldo is an amazing player who would score 40 goals a year in our team and of course Kidd, Law, Tevez, etc have done it on both sides. So there's a precedent. But I just despise the bloke so badly that I want his legs to fall off. I can't help it.
 
Damocles said:
I'm starting to be seriously concerned that we might sign Ronaldo.

I've spent 2 years in lockdown trying to avoid a virus and then one turns up at our door. I genuinely would rather have nobody than him.

He should go to United. He's the physical embodiment of their supreme arrogance. Can you imagine him scoring and the South Stand belting out Viva Ronaldo? It makes me physically ill just thinking about.

I'm not bitter. Ronaldo is an amazing player who would score 40 goals a year in our team and of course Kidd, Law, Tevez, etc have done it on both sides. So there's a precedent. But I just despise the bloke so badly that I want his legs to fall off. I can't help it.
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Ronaldo would be an unwanted horrible **** even if he`d never played for them.
 
Damocles said:
I'm starting to be seriously concerned that we might sign Ronaldo.

I've spent 2 years in lockdown trying to avoid a virus and then one turns up at our door. I genuinely would rather have nobody than him.

He should go to United. He's the physical embodiment of their supreme arrogance. Can you imagine him scoring and the South Stand belting out Viva Ronaldo? It makes me physically ill just thinking about.

I'm not bitter. Ronaldo is an amazing player who would score 40 goals a year in our team and of course Kidd, Law, Tevez, etc have done it on both sides. So there's a precedent. But I just despise the bloke so badly that I want his legs to fall off. I can't help it.
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Don’t worry ain’t happening
 
Damocles said:
I'm starting to be seriously concerned that we might sign Ronaldo.

I've spent 2 years in lockdown trying to avoid a virus and then one turns up at our door. I genuinely would rather have nobody than him.

He should go to United. He's the physical embodiment of their supreme arrogance. Can you imagine him scoring and the South Stand belting out Viva Ronaldo? It makes me physically ill just thinking about.

I'm not bitter. Ronaldo is an amazing player who would score 40 goals a year in our team and of course Kidd, Law, Tevez, etc have done it on both sides. So there's a precedent. But I just despise the bloke so badly that I want his legs to fall off. I can't help it.
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I despise fans more who let pettiness drag the club down. Kane might or might not pull off but someone here is more worried about optics. Grealish is more of a rag than Ronaldo and he never even played there. The squad is the best I've ever seen but there's never anyone here that could take a game by the neck and produce something for themselves. Just look at the CL final.
 
D'Silva said:
I despise fans more who let pettiness drag the club down. Kane might or might not pull off but someone here is more worried about optics. Grealish is more of a rag than Ronaldo and he never even played there. The squad is the best I've ever seen but there's never anyone here that could take a game by the neck and produce something for themselves. Just look at the CL final.
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This isn't about optics, it's about emotion. I don't want an arrogant **** who is a legend at our biggest rivals to play for us because it would me feel worse. Grealish is not and never was a United fan.

It's funny really. I say "I despise a United legend" and your response is "I despise City fans". Maybe you picked the wrong side mate?
 
Damocles said:
This isn't about optics, it's about emotion. I don't want an arrogant **** who is a legend at our biggest rivals to play for us because it would me feel worse. Grealish is not and never was a United fan.

It's funny really. I say "I despise a United legend" and your response is "I despise City fans". Maybe you picked the wrong side mate?
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Oh no I didn't. I just have a low opinion of those kinds of fans. A United legend, even better, he is a legend at the swamp but somehow angling for a move at the city rivals. That will send Fergie to the grave.
 
Damocles said:
This isn't about optics, it's about emotion. I don't want an arrogant **** who is a legend at our biggest rivals to play for us because it would me feel worse. Grealish is not and never was a United fan.

It's funny really. I say "I despise a United legend" and your response is "I despise City fans". Maybe you picked the wrong side mate?
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Kane is also an arrogant ****, and a long term legend of another premier league club. How is signing him that different.
 
Damocles said:
Because Spurs have not spent 100 years as the biggest rivals of Manchester City.
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There is a difference now though in that rivalry. We are better than them and have been this last decade. They're beneath us.

Ronaldo was only loyal to Taggart. He's given more to Madrid than he did them, and it's fair to say he used the rags as a stepping stone. How fucking wrenching it would be for them now to see him come to us, to propel us to that maiden CL win.

It will kill them, anger the piss can and benefit us. Remove your hatred for him and you'll see it is a win win signing.
 
Damocles said:
Because Spurs have not spent 100 years as the biggest rivals of Manchester City.
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So the issue is the rags bit, ok. Just wanted to clarify.

Look, not judging btw in the slightest, for clarity. I get emotion.

For me, bar the weight of the dislike of each former club (and plenty seem to dislike spurs too), the two transfers are the same. We'd be signing another club's senior player, both established elsewhere, both arrogant egos albeit one much much more. Also happens to be a much much better player.

Don't feel particularly swayed by the emotion at this point in the window, but if I did, I could almost find Ronaldo more palatable than Kane if I stop to think about it. Because of the fees involved, and also because ronaldo has been at multiple big clubs.
 
Coatigan said:
So the issue is the rags bit, ok. Just wanted to clarify.

Look, not judging btw in the slightest, for clarity. I get emotion.

For me, bar the weight of the dislike of each former club (and plenty seem to dislike spurs too), the two transfers are the same. We'd be signing another club's senior player, both established elsewhere, both arrogant egos albeit one much much more. Also happens to be a much much better player.

Don't feel particularly swayed by the emotion at this point in the window, but if I did, I could almost find Ronaldo more palatable than Kane if I stop to think about it. Because of the fees involved, and also because ronaldo has been at multiple big clubs.
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I also understand attempting to be rational. But if cheering for a legend at your biggest rivals doesn't make you squirm then what even is the point of all of this?

It's perfectly rational to switch the teams that you support every year based on who you think you'll enjoy the most at that time. It's perfectly rational to hope that your rivals do well because your friends will be happy so you cheer them on. In fact for most of our lives it has been perfectly rational not to support Manchester City.

Football isn't rational, it's a tribalistic endeavour and at some point that has to come into the conversation and I think signing a Rooney or a Ronaldo is probably that point.
 
Damocles said:
I also understand attempting to be rational. But if cheering for a legend at your biggest rivals doesn't make you squirm then what even is the point of all of this?

It's perfectly rational to switch the teams that you support every year based on who you think you'll enjoy the most at that time. It's perfectly rational to hope that your rivals do well because your friends will be happy so you cheer them on. In fact for most of our lives it has been perfectly rational not to support Manchester City.

Football isn't rational, it's a tribalistic endeavour and at some point that has to come into the conversation and I think signing a Rooney or a Ronaldo is probably that point.
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Fair enough.

My issue with Ronaldo would be Ronaldo himself, more than his association with utd. Particularly given I associate him with Real more. In the sense that I find him annoying, and cheering him would feel a chore. But that is easy to think for a player of another club. I find Kane annoying. But that wasnt the reason for the concerns I had with us going for him, and would support him if he came. Found Mahrez annoying before he came, the showboating robben wannabe. Now, won't have anyone call him FFS. Etc Etc. Ronaldo is a damn good player.
Way better than Kane. Much cheaper. Not long term, sure, but neither is Kane, relatively. Still doubt there is much to the one claim by l'equippe, but keeping an open mind if it does build to anything more substantial.
 
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Damocles said:
I also understand attempting to be rational. But if cheering for a legend at your biggest rivals doesn't make you squirm then what even is the point of all of this?

It's perfectly rational to switch the teams that you support every year based on who you think you'll enjoy the most at that time. It's perfectly rational to hope that your rivals do well because your friends will be happy so you cheer them on. In fact for most of our lives it has been perfectly rational not to support Manchester City.

Football isn't rational, it's a tribalistic endeavour and at some point that has to come into the conversation and I think signing a Rooney or a Ronaldo is probably that point.
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Iconic City moments:

law relegating Man Utd at Old Trafford
Tevez scoring against them and giving it to Ferguson.

Just end the season with a city trophy. That's all that matters. I'll take anyone who will run through walls for City goals.
 
Marvin said:
Iconic City moments:

law relegating Man Utd at Old Trafford
Tevez scoring against them and giving it to Ferguson.

Just end the season with a city trophy. That's all that matters. I'll take anyone who will run through walls for City goals.
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Law was almost 50 years ago, half a century. He's moving into the Meredith and Mangall territory. Tevez was never the icon at United that Ronaldo was and we bought him directly. They still sing Viva Ronaldo on a regular basis at Old Trafford; he got booed when he came to the Etihad. They aren't really comparable.

Would you be happy with Gary Neville playing right back? What about getting Rooney up front?
 
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