Scotland flipped to the SNP domesically well before Brexit, thats true because they are an effective centre left party. Scotland didn’t flip towards independance which is a totally different thing until after brexit and a particularly extreme brexit deal at that. So if you don’t mix up a SNP domestic government and a growing Independence support, then an extreme Brexit has led to that growth in support.when you said “Westminster voted through a Brexit that was as extreme as it was possible to be” that wasn’t the case.
Scotland had flipped to the SNP well before the Brexit deal was voted through WM.
You’re right on the last part actually, but it would have been a pretty close run thing.
@Saddleworth2 dont make cheap comments pal, if you think I’ve got a lack of understanding tell me why, grow a backbone
I thought Javid kiboshed it yesterday?
If they were that desperate for Scotland to stay their actions since Johnson took over as PM would bear no resemblance to what they’ve actually done.I think they’re desperate for them to stay to be honest as nobody wants to be responsible for losing the union.
I still reckon the SNP would never have gone away until they got a successful vote.if it wasn’t brexit it’d have been something else.
That’s a good point but have the polls massively changed between 2017 and now?Scotland flipped to the SNP domesically well before Brexit, thats true because they are an effective centre left party. Scotland didn’t flip towards independance which is a totally different thing until after brexit and a particularly extreme brexit deal at that. So if you don’t mix up a SNP domestic government and a growing Independence support, then an extreme Brexit has led to that growth in support.
Sorry I’ll rephrase, they’re desperate to remain in power and want Scotland to stay.If they were that desperate for Scotland to stay their actions since Johnson took over as PM would bear no resemblance to what they’ve actually done.
if I had to correct everything you get wrong and don’t understand I would have to engage with you which you know I won’t until you demonstrate you are a serious poster rather than the wum I think you are. Thanks my backbone is just fine and I will continue to post however and whenever I like and with whoever I like. :-)when you said “Westminster voted through a Brexit that was as extreme as it was possible to be” that wasn’t the case.
Scotland had flipped to the SNP well before the Brexit deal was voted through WM.
You’re right on the last part actually, but it would have been a pretty close run thing.
@Saddleworth2 dont make cheap comments pal, if you think I’ve got a lack of understanding tell me why, grow a backbone
Not massively ,no . Think it’s gone from 45% yes to about 51% yes. I think though there is a lot of undecided, that could swing further with 3 things being clarified.That’s a good point but have the polls massively changed between 2017 and now?
I’ve noticed you get a little tetchy whenever someone says anything negative about Scotland.there’s no need son, take it on the chin. Just reply me directly rather than to someone else.if I had to correct everything you get wrong and don’t understand I would have to engage with you which you know I won’t until you demonstrate you are a serious poster rather than the wum I think you are. Thanks my backbone is just fine and I will continue to post however and whenever I like and with whoever I like. :-)
Totally agree, although I’d also add the border and immigration rules post independence.Not massively ,no . Think it’s gone from 45% yes to about 51% yes. I think though there is a lot of undecided, that could swing further with 3 things being clarified.
1. More evidence problem we are seeing are Brexit not covid, and people see they aren’t being rectified.
2 An agreement from the eu on a clear rejoining pathway.
3. A clear plan for Scottish currency.
In other words, you agree with my earlier post but argued against it anyway.Sorry I’ll rephrase, they’re desperate to remain in power and want Scotland to stay.
The trouble is they can’t do both.
You’re not the first to notice striking similarities to Banjani’s views.I had a similar argument with banjani about the numbers in Westminster meaning it didn’t matter a flying fuck who the Scots vote for if England vote differently then that’s what we get as a government.
I’m not sure you made the point they want both, in fact you said they want rid of Scotland to remain in power.In other words, you agree with my earlier post but argued against it anyway.
You’ve got striking similarities to Saddleworth2 in your views?You’re not the first to notice striking similarities to Banjani’s views.
He’s a smart guy.You’ve got striking similarities to Saddleworth2 in your views?
He seems it.He’s a smart guy.
I only get tetchy when faced with stupidity, laziness or wumming. Or maybe it’s because I’m anti-English like the rest of my brethren :-)I’ve noticed you get a little tetchy whenever someone says anything negative about Scotland.there’s no need son, take it on the chin. Just reply me directly rather than to someone else.
I am not a wum, you and I just don’t see eye to eye but what you don’t realise is we’re both not unionists so are in the same camp.
You can’t call someone lazy or a wum when you haven’t even been able to point out why or where they are wrong :-)I only get tetchy when faced with stupidity, laziness or wumming. Or maybe it’s because I’m anti-English like the rest of my brethren :-)
Just did mate. Your posting history is all the evidence anybody would need.You can’t call someone lazy or a wum when you haven’t even been able to point out why or where they are wrong :-)
You just can’t take disagreement, says a lot when you don’t actually say anythingJust did mate. Your posting history is all the evidence anybody would need.
She’s a good orator but that’s about where the respect should stop.
Maybe the English public just think differently to you, as a majority, rather than them being easily influenced?
I also think the dislike of the English goes a lot further than those examples you’ve mentioned.