Why didn't you go to the Leipzig game?

I’ve cancelled all the cup schemes.

Was thinking about it anyway but this jibe from Guardiola and the absolute fiasco trying to get home from the match on Wednesday has pushed me over the edge.

I’ll go to home league games this season - but the cup and chumps league matches can get in the bin.

Sorry to all the York away happy clappers and sorry Pep etc. Realise I’m not a ‘proper’ fan now.
 
Personally I have never been a huge fan of Kevin Parker and I seriously question his judgement with regards to speaking to Sky, I don't really see what could have been gained. However, the truth is, this is a story because Pep made it a story and it was a dig at the fanbase and yes he is still the best manager we have ever had, as a person though I'm not a huge fan of his either.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
Personally I have never been a huge fan of Kevin Parker and I seriously question his judgement with regards to speaking to Sky, I don't really see what could have been gained. However, the truth is, this is a story because Pep made it a story and it was a dig at the fanbase and yes he is still the best manager we have ever had, as a person though I'm not a huge fan of his either.
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Nothing has been gained from this. The press have loved it.
 
OB1 said:
I have lived away from the Northwest for the last 31 years and in recent times, I have started to see kids with City shirts where I would not have previously done so; even our latest neighbours’ boys have a City football (no idea if they are actually fans). In the very long queue for the park and ride recently at Silverstone the family behind us were I think Dutch UK residents but they weren’t bedecked in orange; however, their son had last season’s City away shirt on. Our support is widening and growing and it won’t be impeded by “Empithad” bollocks.
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And my beef with people like Soriano is that we should be actively capitalising on that growth in support, getting them in the ground where possible. Particularly where these kids are local, or relatively local, once they've been a couple of times the chances are they'll come more often.

Yet I'm still to hear the club's strategy for achieving this.
 
eastmanc said:
He implied that by saying that we didn’t have the history of united and Liverpool.
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No. You inferred it. It's not the same thing.

He specifically said we don't have a history in the European Cup. Because we don't, and Pep doesn't have the same inferiority complex/chip on his shoulder/neuroses about that as some of the fans, so he's proud to be building the club's history up with Champion's League finals and semi-finals while unfortunately the aforementioned fans are more concerned about what 11 year old United fans are joking about on twitter in between failed Europa League runs.

He said "We don't have a history in this competition" and you deliberately chose to twist that into "City don't have history", something completely different.

I think Pep's summed this up perfectly - "After 5 years if people are misunderstanding me it is because they want to misunderstand me".
 
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domalino said:
No. You inferred it. It's not the same thing.

He specifically said we don't have a history in the European Cup. Because we don't, and Pep doesn't have the same inferiority complex/chip on his shoulder/neuroses about that as some of the fans, so he's proud to be building the club's history up with Champion's League finals and semi-finals while unfortunately the aforementioned fans are more concerned about what 11 year old United fans are joking about on twitter in between failed Europa League runs.

I think Pep's summed this up perfectly - "After 5 years if people are misunderstanding me it is because they want to misunderstand me".
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So do you think it’s right that he has had more than a few digs at us as fans . Or am I wrong about that as well.
 
eastmanc said:
So do you think it’s right that he has had more than a few digs at us as fans . Or am I wrong about that as well.
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I don't think he's ever taken a genuine shot at the fans. Actually I think today was the closest he's gotten to it.

He's said a lot of things that some fans have chosen to twist into an insult. A lot of fans in this thread have invented things they think he's said.
 
smevchenko said:
It's a very simple fact, City have less fans then clubs like United and Liverpool.

Why anyone would let that fact upset them is beyond me.
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What Pep said didn't bother me in the least, Utd and Liverpool do have more fans than we have for sure. But dare I say City fans attend more games and not all of them can afford every match at home in all 4 competitions and we don't have the tourist trade to take up the slack like they do.
 
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Being a foreigner, it’s a little bit difficult to catch up with the recent ticket/attendance drama although I have seen Pep’s comments.

Some questions:

- what was the allowed amount of spectators against Leipzig - what was the actual turnout?
- was recent ticket problems a reason as to why people didn’t attend?
- isn’t it the club’s fault that the stadium doesn’t get sold out - i suppose at a certain price level the demand will be there? Or is it some complicated loyalty system that makes some tickets unavailable for the public? Are season ticket holders able to sell their spots if they don’t attend?

would appreciate if someone could clarify as I’m curious to know how it works.
 
I didn't go because I don't like the competition. I watched it on telly and if it wasn't us playing it would have been off. I find the competition incredibly over hyped and I just don't buy into it.

For some reason you're called European Champions if you win it. That's bollocks. You're the Champions League winner - just the winner of a cup competition. It's like calling the FA Cup winners the Champions of England - there's a good case for it as every team in England enter the competition......
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Like I said above, Kevin does more for our fans than probably any bar Sheila Mansour and the team. I don’t agree with every word he’d said but he’s more entitlement to give his view than anyone on here IMHO.
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Yes he doe's do a lot of supporters club work you're right Tim but if you know him he lives in a different world to most of our fans who give up a far bigger percentage of their income to follow City, and interviews on Sky Sports just give extra sticks to beat our support with sadly.
 
eastlandsblue said:
All he needs to do infuture, is say the atmosphere isn't great. Which was infact the case on weds. Maybe being a group game could be a factor or its the stand you sit in. Let's hope this is put to bed and the atmosphere on Saturday gives him reason to be cheerful
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Atmospheres tend to thrive off away fans, the 42 Leipzig fans weren't going to set the place alight. Fuck me they didn't even have a cheerleader or a drum.
 
Typical shit stirring media, divide and conquer, but we could be smarter by not giving them the ammo. Only got ourselves to blame if we fall for it.100% behind Pep.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I think its his 'view' that's made a mountain out of a molehill.

He didn't need to speak to the media over it, and now we have Pep saying he will leave if we don't want him.
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Pep hasn't said he will leave, not once in that press conference, he said if he had a problem with fans he would leave, but he has no problem with the fans so not an issue or gonna happen.

The comments that night were still in my opinion easily misunderstood and after a big win and another record breaking night not necessary or relevent to have been made, and imediately used as a weapon, before parkers comments.
Parker had a right to voice his opinion and Pep has explained himself today.

Issue over we go forward.
 
i kne albert davy said:
What Pep said didn't bother me in the least, Utd and Liverpool do have more fans than we have for sure. But dare I say City fans attend more games and not all of can afford every match at home in all 4 competitions and we don't have the tourist trade to take up the slack like they do.
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At the minute we have more regular fans than either (scousers most deffinately) but we have a lot less day trippers, for every seat that isn't a season carder them two wankers will fill those seat with some who will go only to one game a season, we don't
 
noirish said:
Being a foreigner, it’s a little bit difficult to catch up with the recent ticket/attendance drama although I have seen Pep’s comments.

Some questions:

- what was the allowed amount of spectators against Leipzig - what was the actual turnout?
- was recent ticket problems a reason as to why people didn’t attend?
- isn’t it the club’s fault that the stadium doesn’t get sold out - i suppose at a certain price level the demand will be there? Or is it some complicated loyalty system that makes some tickets unavailable for the public? Are season ticket holders able to sell their spots if they don’t attend?

would appreciate if someone could clarify as I’m curious to know how it works.
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  • The attendance quoted by the BBC was 38,062 but I think it was between 45k and 48k. Away fans get 3k seats. There were about 50 Leipzig fans at the front of the bottom tier. Imo bar the away end the bottom 2 tiers were packed and the top tiers were largely full. There's no way the BBC figure is correct. I actually felt good on the night that there was so many fans there.
  • There was a lot of talk about tickets and it might have put off a few hundred but not significant numbers imo. The transport is more of an issue. No match day buses so you have to walk.
  • City's crowds are better than they have ever been but it's the usual Man Utd and Liverpool joke and with the stupid 38k attendance it has given them a field day. Media exploit anything they can to create news that sells.
No one can really clarify it for you. There is only opinion.

City imo now have a fanbase that in Manchester is as big if not bigger than it has ever been in my lifetime. But we have always struggled to fill the ground on a midweek Cup game simply because a lot of season ticket holders can not go because they live outside Manchester. And when that happens we can't quite make the gap up yet. We will eventually. We actually need a bigger ground to enable the fanbase to grow.

For example Southampton returned some tickets. They have been sold.
 
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malg said:
I didn't go because I don't like the competition. I watched it on telly and if it wasn't us playing it would have been off. I find the competition incredibly over hyped and I just don't buy into it.

For some reason you're called European Champions if you win it. That's bollocks. You're the Champions League winner - just the winner of a cup competition. It's like calling the FA Cup winners the Champions of England - there's a good case for it as every team in England enter the competition......
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Maybe we need a european super league … or summat ;)
 
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