Political relations between UK-EU

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BobKowalski said:
I read the other day about cabotage and that Polish firms account for 25% of European haulage, constantly shuffling produce and goods from within country and between countries, so doing the job of 4 or 5 drivers if this European network didn’t exist.

What I didn’t know was that the EU limited UK hauliers to only two jobs maximum within the EU under the trade deal, so we restricted EU drivers to two jobs thereby eliminating the capacity of EU drivers to take three or four jobs within the UK before heading back to Europe with a full load (now it’s often an empty load).

Add in these restrictions, the hassle of EU customs, the poor facilities here for drivers and you can see why holes are appearing.
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Makes you question the genius behind the thinking to build massive lorry parks in Kent - they clearly had little or no concept of the impact of what they were trying to implement and had zero fucking clue about how supply works
 
bluethrunthru said:
Makes you question the genius behind the thinking to build massive lorry parks in Kent - they clearly had little or no concept of the impact of what they were trying to implement and had zero fucking clue about how supply works
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It was similar to the nightingale hospitals. Do something so the public thinks that you're on top of a problem where in the reality what you've done is of absolutely no use whatsoever so all you've actually done is waste money.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yeah, it’s just shuffling stock around, I think that’s why I was shocked yesterday because it was just empty shelves and really big gaps elsewhere. Shuffling empty space not really a viable option. The deli and butcher sections have now being boarded over as well.

Time to fill the freezer and keep it full.
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I remember a couple of years ago having a discussion with someone who said he'd rather live off cardboard and dust than be in the EU. Seems he'll be getting his wish sooner than he thought.
 
bluejon said:
It was similar to the nightingale hospitals. Do something so the public thinks that you're on top of a problem where in the reality what you've done is of absolutely no use whatsoever so all you've actually done is waste money.
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Yep, exactly the same. Build some massive emergency hospitals with no prospect of getting the staff to run them and build some massive lorry parks when there's a huge shortage of lorry drivers and foreign drivers won't come here because they don't want to be stuck in massive lorry parks. They'll probably build a massive slaughterhouse that can take 150,000 pigs next but will be unable to find more than 2 or 3 butchers to work there, but by then all the pigs will have been killed on the farms and rendered into a mountain of lard. Talking of mountain's of lard, what's Johnson doing today?
 
west didsblue said:
I remember a couple of years ago having a discussion with someone who said he'd rather live off cardboard and dust than be in the EU. Seems he'll be getting his wish sooner than he thought.
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Probably followed up by a statement that just because he voted Leave doesn't mean he is stupid...........

Wonder how he is enjoying his new Flintstones powered car ? He'd probably tell you it was a move he made on purpose to ensure his car was more environmentally friendly and nothing to do with petrol shortages that aren't happening anyway

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west didsblue said:
Yep, exactly the same. Build some massive emergency hospitals with no prospect of getting the staff to run them and build some massive lorry parks when there's a huge shortage of lorry drivers and foreign drivers won't come here because they don't want to be stuck in massive lorry parks. They'll probably build a massive slaughterhouse that can take 150,000 pigs next but will be unable to find more than 2 or 3 butchers to work there, but by then all the pigs will have been killed on the farms and rendered into a mountain of lard. Talking of mountain's of lard, what's Johnson doing today?
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A Nightingale slaughterhouse? I think you’ve hit on something there
 
My favourite 'mature cheddar and onion' posh crisps are notable in their absence over the past few weeks...

Was there ever any genuinely likeable Brexit architects or purveyors of the finest Brexit dream btw?
 
somapop said:
My favourite 'mature cheddar and onion' posh crisps are notable in their absence over the past few weeks...

Was there ever any genuinely likeable Brexit architects or purveyors of the finest Brexit dream btw?
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Nope. A point I've made repeatedly on here for 5 years. Every single high profile Brexiter is an arsehole. Different shades of arsehole: the racist ones, the deluded ones, the calculating ones, the selfish ones...lots of different types of arseholes. But none who are remotely likeable or trustworthy.

Before some clown leaps to the moral high ground...I'm talking about the high profile Brexiteers who made it happen or trumpeted it in the media. Cummings, Johnson, Farage, Patel, Botham, Warnock, Bridgen, Daltrey, Clapton, Martin etc etc etc. Nobody has ever named one who wasn't an arse.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Nope. A point I've made repeatedly on here for 5 years. Every single high profile Brexiter is an arsehole. Different shades of arsehole: the racist ones, the deluded ones, the calculating ones, the selfish ones...lots of different types of arseholes. But none who are remotely likeable or trustworthy.

Before some clown leaps to the moral high ground...I'm talking about the high profile Brexiteers who made it happen or trumpeted it in the media. Cummings, Johnson, Farage, Patel, Botham, Warnock, Bridgen, Daltrey, Clapton, Martin etc etc etc. Nobody has ever named one who wasn't an arse.
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Steve Martin ffs...comedy hero growing up.
 
BobKowalski said:
Turkey (which is in the EU Customs Union), Ukraine and North African countries are the usual non-EU source of additional labour. Going further afield makes sense.

All European developed nations - which increasingly includes Eastern European nations, will be competing for labour going forward. Interesting to see whether the UK becomes a source of labour for continental Europe as it did in the eighties.
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Germany taking in over 1m refugees weren’t so stupid after all.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Nope. A point I've made repeatedly on here for 5 years. Every single high profile Brexiter is an arsehole. Different shades of arsehole: the racist ones, the deluded ones, the calculating ones, the selfish ones...lots of different types of arseholes. But none who are remotely likeable or trustworthy.

Before some clown leaps to the moral high ground...I'm talking about the high profile Brexiteers who made it happen or trumpeted it in the media. Cummings, Johnson, Farage, Patel, Botham, Warnock, Bridgen, Daltrey, Clapton, Martin etc etc etc. Nobody has ever named one who wasn't an arse.
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Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden. Always come across as a decent guy, was very surprised at that.
 
journolud said:
Fuck 'em, we'll build our own chip factory, assuming we've got anyone to dig the potatoes up.
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Maybe one of our tech entrepreneurs will fill the gap.
I'm sure Clive Sinclair would have risen to the challenge if he hadn't died last month.
Maybe James Dyson will? Or maybe he'll set up a factory in Malaysia like he does for his other products.
That just leaves Alan Sugar. Except he has no history of manufacturing in the UK either.
 
bluejon said:
Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden. Always come across as a decent guy, was very surprised at that.
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Quite a few established older rock stars supported brexit, and have ended up needing to back lobbying to government because young and smaller bands can’t tour europe. So rich rock stars fucking up lesser working bands just trying to make a living.
 
west didsblue said:
Maybe one of our tech entrepreneurs will fill the gap.
I'm sure Clive Sinclair would have risen to the challenge if he hadn't died last month.
Maybe James Dyson will? Or maybe he'll set up a factory in Malaysia like he does for his other products.
That just leaves Alan Sugar. Except he has no history of manufacturing in the UK either.
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NWF could try Chinese owned now though
eandt.theiet.org

UK’s largest chip plant acquired by Chinese-owned Nexperia

Nexperia – a Dutch chip firm wholly owned by Shanghai-based Wingtech – has this week confirmed plans to acquire the UK’s largest chip producer, Newport Wafer Fab (NWF).
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Didsbury Dave said:
Nope. A point I've made repeatedly on here for 5 years. Every single high profile Brexiter is an arsehole. Different shades of arsehole: the racist ones, the deluded ones, the calculating ones, the selfish ones...lots of different types of arseholes. But none who are remotely likeable or trustworthy.

Before some clown leaps to the moral high ground...I'm talking about the high profile Brexiteers who made it happen or trumpeted it in the media. Cummings, Johnson, Farage, Patel, Botham, Warnock, Bridgen, Daltrey, Clapton, Martin etc etc etc. Nobody has ever named one who wasn't an arse.
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Martin was moaning about how Brexit wasn’t meant to be this way as he can‘t get enough staff for his grotty shithole pubs.

We need to cull arseholes like Martin. We’d be all better off for it.
 
blueparrot said:
Quite a few established older rock stars supported brexit, and have ended up needing to back lobbying to government because young and smaller bands can’t tour europe. So rich rock stars fucking up lesser working bands just trying to make a living.
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Aye, he's not come out of it looking very good, but always thought he was a good bloke.
 
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