Media Thread - 2021/22

[Idesofmarch69]

He did a spell on loan with Hellenic in Cape Town. He also started out playing for Stockton Heath and Devises in the depths of Wiltshire.

Devizes - its Devizes.

 

[BrianW]

I was talking to my mate about this today. This country sells its assets, including vital infrastructure, to anyone with money, no matter where the money comes from, no matter how vile the despots. The KSA is a key ally and we sell them weapons, train their officers, almost certainly share intelligence with them. Their king can come over here and have a scran with the Queen any time he likes - no one blinks an eye.

So how come we get prissy about the ownership of a football club, which is of no strategic value whatever?

Baffles me. In addition, there is not a country in the world, this country included, that could not be criticised for human rights violations. It's relative, I suppose, but the fact is we trade happily with almost anyone. If anyone suggested that we should be more particular in our dealings in general they would be denounced as impractical, living in a fantasy world, or just plain left-wing.

 

[domalino]

Britain acquired SOME of its wealth from invading countries, far, far from all of it.

Quite a lot of it. We're not a particularly resource rich nation - not until the coal age in the 19th century.

 

[dadnlad]

The whole football world is desperate to see a last-day title win in front of thousands of smiling faces at St James Park

alot of these geordies appear to of forgotten this day from history but from what i heard their wasn't many of them in attendance that day

 

[crazyg]

Devizes - its Devizes.

Better known as the home of the Wadworth brewery.

 

[crazyg]

The whole football world is desperate to see a last-day title win in front of thousands of smiling faces at St James Park

alot of these geordies appear to of forgotten this day from history but from what i heard their wasn't many of them in attendance that day

What a day! I was in the Leazes end. Absolutely packed with blues as well.
If there were only the stated 46492 in attendance, there must have been 30000 in blue in the ground.

It's true. You never forget your first time!

 

[hammocity]

Britain acquired SOME of its wealth from invading countries, far, far from all of it.

Became a wealthy country on the back of it, going back centuries

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

A little bit of sportwashing is ok I hold assume, just not too much.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yemen ........

The point is that no country is clean. So it is hypocritical to attack the Saudis while working with the US. Human rights abuses are not exclusive to the Gulf region.

 

[wagonman]

did you ever hear of the industrial revolution?

Did you ever hear of the slave trade?

JJ

 

[pardoeofftomexico]

Quite a lot of it. We're not a particularly resource rich nation - not until the coal age in the 19th century.

Well, from this area we supplied the world with textiles. In the 1800's we were the leading manufacturing nation on earth. We have a list of unequalled inventions. The problem with this country is that since I was young, people talk it down.

 

[andyhinch]

Became a wealthy country on the back of it, going back centuries

I like to think of it as exporting civilisation :-)

 

[wagonman]

I like to think of it as exporting civilisation :-)

Yeah... right... as if!


JJ

 

[domalino]

Well, from this area we supplied the world with textiles. In the 1800's we were the leading manufacturing nation on earth. We have a list of unequalled inventions. The problem with this country is that since I was young, people talk it down.

Yeah and where did the cotton for those textiles come from?

Perhaps the real problem is that people think accepting your history is talking the country down and believing in a myth is patriotism.

Also, this isn't relevant since you used such a bad example but I did literally say "up to the 19th century" and you've tried to refute that with an example from...the 19th century.

 

[domalino]

Became a wealthy country on the back of it, going back centuries

Basically from the beginning of the 17th century to the end of the 19th. We had a decent wealth from exporting wool through the 1500s but became the richest country on earth through invading the East and colonising America and owning those trade routes.

Theres no need to handwring about the actions of people 300 years ago or get defensive about it, but for some reason people do.

 

[stan bowles]

Basically from the beginning of the 17th century to the end of the 19th. We had a decent wealth from exporting wool through the 1500s but became the richest country on earth through invading the East and colonising America and owning those trade routes.

Theres no need to handwring about the actions of people 300 years ago or get defensive about it, but for some reason people do.

If it hadn't been the British colonising the world and exploiting territories overseas for gain then it would have been The French, The Dutch, The Spanish or the Portuguese. It's folly to say British alone saw the acquisition of overseas territories as the optimum route to wealth. All major European nations at that time were at it.

 

[Mr Fraser]

A little bit of sportwashing is ok I hold assume, just not too much.

Are they still sponsored by Saudi telecoms?

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

If it hadn't been the British colonising the world and exploiting territories overseas for gain then it would have been The French, The Dutch, The Spanish or the Portuguese. It's folly to say British alone saw the acquisition of overseas territories as the optimum route to wealth. All major European nations at that time were at it.

We stole from the Spanish
Copied the Dutch
Defeated the French
Plundered the Indians

 

[domalino]

It's folly to say British alone saw the acquisition of overseas territories as the optimum route to wealth. All major European nations at that time were at it.

No one said that. It's folly to invent things to argue against.

 

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