Agree - she would have to seriously moderate her politics.
"Moderate her policies"??
This is the 'old/ young' AOC:
See that line about a 'one term politician' not mattering if you go all out for the agenda you believe in for your constituency and not afraid? Really, AOC?
She is pretty far from this position as she, now, takes her cues from Pelosi on what she's voting on. The 'Squad' are fragmented and don't utilise their power as a 'block' effectively enough.
Clearly, talk is cheap.
Unless she sticks absolutely to the letter of her word that is no good.As politicians go though, she's true to her word more than most.
"Moderate her policies"??
This is the 'old/ young' AOC:
See that line about a 'one term politician' not mattering if you go all out for the agenda you believe in for your constituency and not afraid? Really, AOC?
She is pretty far from this position as she, now, takes her cues from Pelosi on what she's voting on. The 'Squad' are fragmented and don't utilise their power as a 'block' effectively enough.
Clearly, talk is cheap.
Then, NO-ONE will ever be good ever again!Unless she sticks absolutely to the letter of her word that is no good.
The squad…power…talk is cheap…
Methinks your political persuasion is getting the better of you!
What would one say of McConnell and McCarthy???
They denounce Trump & the insurrection ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS IN SPEECHES, then one runs down to Mar-A-Lago to kiss the ring (no, the other, brown one!), while the other flips his story and openly admits his SOLE FUNCTION, as it was with President Obama, is to make Biden as UNSUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE, and a one-term President….America and the American public be damned!!
And, not for nuthin’ but, like clockwork, the national debt is a big issue again now Dems have power! LAUGHABLE, esp when you consider what the money was spent on, and what Biden is trying to do!
Carry on.
One wonders which alternative reality you would have her live in:This diatribe means nothing.
This about Cortez and how much she's shifted from her pre-congress position.
Why come in riding a wild stallion of promise and fire only to be walking a poodle of humility and compromise??
Such a shadow of herself beaten up by the hammer of incrementalism and assimilation in her own party. Once, the person to be standing outside with the crowd shouting at the filthy rich as they walk into their gatherings of self congratulatory awards, she now enters such galas wearing words of 'defiance' warmly applauded by her new peers that see her stunts as 'amusing'.
Well, I guess her way of saying she's still "Jenny from the Block", eh?
A slither of hope for her, still.
One wonders which alternative reality you would have her live in:
The benevolent dictatorship, where she can do whatever she wants, as long as you think it’s OK?
The “I said X, so X it is, or I’m going to sit in the corner and scream and scream and scream until I’m sick?”
OR, the Democracy she actually lives and operates in, where her local constituents vote for the ideas and beliefs she shares with them, takes those views to Congress, expresses them as forcefully, intelligently and persuasively as possible, and tries to build a consensus on the issues?
Don’t you think it’s amazing that you know, or have ANY opinion, on AOC, given she’s a young, ethnic woman from a small district in NY who barely finished her first term, after being unknown before her election???
That tells me she’s doing just fine, and her stature is growing…much to the chagrin of so many on the Right.
That literally ignores the fact that she beat an established white male candidate, and that she was an integral part of a blue wave of young, ethnic females being elected to Congress for the first time.What I find amusing in these responses (much like any other on here) is the continued need to focus on her race and her gender and that by doing exposes anybody that questions where she is, politically, as 'right winged' in motive!
Funny stuff!
Well, I guess her way of saying she's still "Jenny from the Block", eh?
That literally ignores the fact that she beat an established white male candidate, and that she was an integral part of a blue wave of young, ethnic females being elected to Congress for the first time.
Indeed, nowhere did I say, or even imply, that her race or gender were a determinant in any of my points…while the ONLY reason you have heard of her is literally driven by it!
Without looking it up, tell me the name of a progressive white male elected at the same time as AOC…
I have a newsflash for you: It’s called politics and democracy!Whilst I don't know the name of a couple of them, as their narrative wrongly is deemed unworthy, I do remember a couple.
But, there's no story there, is there?
Whilst, as you say, the media around her is driven by the virtue of her age, sex and ethnicity (also driven by Justice Democrats), her stepping back of her firebrand that got her there is, now, overlooked.
I find it odd that she had been brow beaten into submission by being ignored by Pelosi for positions on committees to teach her to bend the knee and she did so, Mamma Bear-ing her way to voting 'present' on the Iron Dome vote, when her firebrand self would have said 'no'.
That's how much she's shifted as an example.
QED.Matt Lesser!!
I knew a name would come to mind, eventually!
No idea what happened to him as a newsworthy progressive.
I have a newsflash for you: It’s called politics and democracy!
You can scream whatever you want, and push that agenda, but politics, esp in the House, where there are over 400 other VOTING members, requires you to support & advocate (as strongly as possible, even if it is behind closed doors) your positions, but even a noob like AOC understands reality.
Ever heard of the Green New Deal before her?
You seem obsessed that she has had to temper her positions and play well with others in order to gain any traction. I’m going to suggest you think she should have tried the Benevolent Dictator route, because her following the democratic process has you a little verklempt!
Is she the first politician you have ever heard of that has had to temper her election rhetoric, or is she a special kind of progressive you despise?
Anyone would think you lived in the Bronx!!!
The problem is your left-right meter is calibrated differently, and she wants to be an effective LONG TERM politician, not a shooting star, or comet, that creates instant light and quickly dies.I find this quite boring.
I ask a question and the return is that I'm 'screaming'. I haven't effed and jeffed and now that you can't level racism at me, you resort to my apparent 'stamping of feet'. This is an intended lack of discussion.
There have been a few politicians that haven't altered their 'election rhetoric' but they were left as I am left and they (& I) are left of AOC.
That is why she bends the knee.
Enjoy your own words, CB.
The problem is your left-right meter is calibrated differently, and she wants to be an effective LONG TERM politician, not a shooting star, or comet, that creates instant light and quickly dies.
In those circumstances, principled flexibility is required or your light quickly fades.
There’s a reason most people who rise to the top on politics are rarely spring chickens.
P.S. Your constant political nonsense IS really boring, but that’s because you don’t have like to be called on it. Well known. You should try something else occasionally.
I’m not quite sure what world you live in, but in the real world, people state their desires and strive to achieve them. When they don’t, they don’t just restate the desires the majority have on their behalf, they stick to their guns (on behalf of their constituents) and try again, often by building consensus, and sometimes by simply outlasting and outliving those who would have it another way.Man,GTFO!
You're, basically, forgiving her for changing her mind, which I don't mind as a rule, but she hasn't retracted her views in that vid, nor asked for that vid to be taken down.
All this allows is her two different sides to be presented. If she can't get them removed, then disavow them. So you, in essence, don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
You don't want to explore the evolution, you don't want to question her word salad when presenting a less than straight answer. Your sole purpose is to shutdown any questions.
This is the discussion to be had.
This is the discussion you don't want.
So, instead of you frothing your non-defence of this aspect, why don't you just move on?
I will continue to question as I do with all things and you can continue not to because you find it easier in life to nod along.
Simple enough.
She won't succumb to the lobbyists, but you will see her do the Pelosi Dance, while she positions herself better.
Her influence is extremely strong, but she's a new congress woman and has much to learn about House politics.
I’m not quite sure what world you live in, but in the real world, people state their desires and strive to achieve them. When they don’t, they don’t just restate the desires the majority have on their behalf, they stick to their guns (on behalf of their constituents) and try again, often by building consensus, and sometimes by simply outlasting and outliving those who would have it another way.
Either way, that is REALITY!
You seem to think we live in a world where nobody is allowed to strive and fail, yet restate their goals and try again, because the results didn’t work out!
I really don’t want give a flying fuck what you think of me, my arguments, AOC, or ANY American issue, to be honest.
It seems you come here to stake some ground on some faux outrage and defend it with whatever it takes. Today, the outrageous acts appears to be AOC, a young politician, who said one thing but did another, and yet has failed to take down a fucking Internet video.
Shock. Horror. News at Ten for details!
If you’re looking for ACTUAL outrageous videos, I’d suggest aiming a little further to the right!
Grow the fuck up about real life politics or you’re going to send yourself to an early grave! She’s just one of over 400+ votes in the House. Not a Senator, not a Departmental Secretary, and not even close to a heartbeat from the presidency…yet!
Get over your faux internet outrage already!
Like you said days ago…this is boring, yet here we sit! One of us actually has skin in this game, while the other has a hard on for a young Latina politician from the Bronx from thousands of miles away!
Here’s a quote from a guy who understands the reality she faced when elected:
Whatever happened to that guy?
(Yawn)
TL;DR is a loser’s ignorant “Get Out of Jail” free card, esp when it’s your own words you’re TRYING to avoid!TL;DR.
All I'll say is, rather than wish she was playing the long game, that has turned out to be a false premise; a rather hopefully excusing of what was seen with the shift.
Firebrands are always smothered by the wet of capitalism and she's just one in a long list of many in the states.
If another 'firebrand' of the moment primaried her, she'd lose her seat.
THAT is the 'reality' you're blind to.
Laters.