Ref Watch

Paladin said:
You didn't read my post correctly. That reply was typical of the majority of replies. Go have a look for yourself, the link is there.

I repeat, it is common practice for referees to caution players for persistent fouling (targeting) against one player, even if the cautioned player has only made one foul.
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This is correct. I once cautioned a Spennymoor player for persistent foul play. He said that was his 1st offence. I then had to point out that only 2 minutes ago I told his captain that we were only 12 minutes into the game and the Darlington no11 had now been fouled 5 times & the next player to foul him was going to get a yellow.
 
Vic said:
It's a caution for SPA (stopping a promising attack). That can be anywhere on the pitch.
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Thanks for the clarification. I’d say the rules need some work as that seems to penalise possession teams. A promising attack for us is a long period of possession.
 
The slaughtered lamb said:
Is that a fact, as in written down somewhere in the rules? If it is it’s wrong. We score many of our goals after periods of long possession so I don’t see how a foul at that point is a lesser offence than a foul to stop a counter attack. A foul is a foul.
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But there further requirements for them to be bookings. Currently, the directive is to play on if possible, and if the foul doesn't stop the attack, they do not go back to book someone (again, unless it meets some other requirement like being reckless). This is why opponents often seem to be able to foul a midfielder in back play by being a bit late but the ref plays on.

A forward harassing a fullback by the opposition's goalline isn't going to get booked very often when the defender flops to the floor after a slight nudge. Similarly, challenging in the air for a ball rarely draws a card without there being another cause (e.g. elbows).
 
The slaughtered lamb said:
Is that a fact, as in written down somewhere in the rules? If it is it’s wrong. We score many of our goals after periods of long possession so I don’t see how a foul at that point is a lesser offence than a foul to stop a counter attack. A foul is a foul.
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Hahaha .... I thought I had deleted that post as I came to the conclusion I didn't know what I was talking about. Was just an observation, but one that seems to stand up. Not saying it's right, but can understand it.

The second part of the post i thought I had deleted was about time-wasting by goalkeepers. In for a penny in for a pound. Seems to me that this is only penalised at the end of matches when there is a direct effect on the limited time remaining. Eddy is just as good at time-wasting as other keepers so gets booked too, even if first offence. Not saying this is right either, but can understand it as well.
 
We get booked for first fouls when whoever we are playing get away with murder several times , the refs have ingrained bias , they are human so they can and are swayed and we get the shitty end of the stick , i will never be swayed from this

Only this
 
kaz7 said:
We get booked for first fouls when whoever we are playing get away with murder several times , the refs have ingrained bias , they are human so they can and are swayed and we get the shitty end of the stick , i will never be swayed from this

Only this
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Tanganga is a perfect example of this as mentioned a few posts back. Got away with murder until he was substituted, but Grealish gets a cheap card for dissent after he was penalised for a non-foul.
 
cleavers said:
I thought he was remarkably average tonight, didn't see much "anti City" stuff.

He's as unfit as normal for that profession, but that isn't a surprise.
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He’s good mates with renowned gambler and Brighton owner, Tony Bloom. I don’t think Moss favours the bigger teams but rather favours certain markets at certain times. Mind you, as you say, he is so remarkably unfit (comparatively obviously), he probably can influence more from Stockley Park these days than he can on the pitch..
 
Bluechipblue said:
Although he had a fair night decision wise, he did my head in the number of times he got in the way. KBD ran into him at one point, although the ball broke to us and he played on. Would make an excellent linebacker. Fat fuck.
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He didn't pass the fitness test initially last season & would not at all be surprised if this was the case this year.
 
cleavers said:
I thought he was remarkably average tonight, didn't see much "anti City" stuff.

He's as unfit as normal for that profession, but that isn't a surprise.
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He was still an epic twat for all that. Gave us a last minute free kick and then let the wall stand all of 7 yards away so we couldn’t possibly shoot at goal, waved played on after a cynical shirt pull on Gundogan (I think) and then, after our move petered out, went back and gave the offender a “talking to” instead of a booking, got his fat arse in the way of one of our attacks on the edge of their box, etc. He needs to be taken to the nearest vet to have his whistle euthanised
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
He was still an epic twat for all that. Gave us a last minute free kick and then let the wall stand all of 7 yards away so we couldn’t possibly shoot at goal, waved played on after a cynical shirt pull on Gundogan (I think) and then, after our move petered out, went back and gave the offender a “talking to” instead of a booking, got his fat arse in the way of one of our attacks on the edge of their box, etc. He needs to be taken to the nearest vet to have his whistle euthanised
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I thought the same about the wall at the end - absurdly close.

I think I can picture the shirt pull you mention. Guidelines this season are that if a cynical attempt (like a shirt pull) to break up an attack doesn't stop it and the attacking team carry on, then there is no booking.
 
The English game is supposed to be the best in the world so how come Moss is allowed to referee ? He is clearly unfit. (He was very lucky last night that City took pity on him and slowed everything down. :-)
Clearly a case of mates looking after mates.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I thought the same about the wall at the end - absurdly close.

I think I can picture the shirt pull you mention. Guidelines this season are that if a cynical attempt (like a shirt pull) to break up an attack doesn't stop it and the attacking team carry on, then there is no booking.
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Didn’t know that. Cheers. He was still fat and shite though!
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Didn’t know that. Cheers. He was still fat and shite though!
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I wasn't quite right. It's more than guidance, it's in the laws now (law 12).

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If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/ sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/ sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.
 
It's a sad state of affairs that Moss last night was the best performance especially in relation to how he normally is that we've had this season.

Didn't get much wrong (apart from the wall at the end) and just stood about in our passing lanes.
 
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