Religion

[vmsuhail]

So i read, but the torah or the quran said nothing of the sorts. Torah states from one verse that its way older than 6000 years. And Quran states 4 billion or so. But im basing that on hearsay, need to research on that myself.,

Qur'an doesn't say 4 billion or anything about the age of Earth, but the following verses shed some light on it.

On the creation of the Universe
Qur'an 50:38 "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and no weariness even touched Us."

On the creation of the Earth
Qur'an 41:9 "Tell them, (O Prophet): “Do you indeed disbelieve in Him and assign compeers to Him Who created the earth in two days? He is the Lord of all beings of the Universe."

Ratio = 6/2 = 3.

As per modern cosmology,
Age of the Universe - 13.8 billion years
Age of the Earth - 4.543 billion years

Ratio = 13.8/4.543 which is approximately 3

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Qur'an doesn't say 4 billion or anything about the age of Earth, but the following verses shed some light on it.

On the creation of the Universe
Qur'an 50:38 "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and no weariness even touched Us."

On the creation of the Earth
Qur'an 41:9 "Tell them, (O Prophet): “Do you indeed disbelieve in Him and assign compeers to Him Who created the earth in two days? He is the Lord of all beings of the Universe."

Ratio = 6/2 = 3.

As per modern cosmology,
Age of the Universe - 13.8 billion years
Age of the Earth - 4.543 billion years

Ratio = 13.8/4.543 which is approximately 3

Jesus H Christ. The lengths of mental gymnastics that religious folk go to can be quite staggering.

 

[Jimmieblue]

If there is one, let him be on our side tonight, because those rags seem to be getting too much attention from him lately for my liking.

 

[JASR]

Qur'an doesn't say 4 billion or anything about the age of Earth, but the following verses shed some light on it.

On the creation of the Universe
Qur'an 50:38 "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and no weariness even touched Us."

On the creation of the Earth
Qur'an 41:9 "Tell them, (O Prophet): “Do you indeed disbelieve in Him and assign compeers to Him Who created the earth in two days? He is the Lord of all beings of the Universe."

Ratio = 6/2 = 3.

As per modern cosmology,
Age of the Universe - 13.8 billion years
Age of the Earth - 4.543 billion years

Ratio = 13.8/4.543 which is approximately 3

Was that a royal ‘we’?
That entire sentence implies more than 1 entity. Though clearly it’s subject to change between Arabic and English. It’s almost a ‘get out of jail free’ card…

 

[vmsuhail]

Was that a royal ‘we’?
That entire sentence implies more than 1 entity. Though clearly it’s subject to change between Arabic and English. It’s almost a ‘get out of jail free’ card…

Yes, it's a royal We and a royal Us. There is no third person plural used anywhere.

 

[JASR]

A follow up to my post (when I couldn’t remember the simple word ‘contradictions’!) on the bible, there’s also plenty in the Quran :

Contradictions in the Quran

and of course the bible

Contradictions as listed in the SAB book

www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

The website is a useful resource for when anyone quote ‘s a religious text, as it supplies detailed information about each bit. Not just about contradictions - which is always amusing when an infallible god is brought up.

 

[Elbow beards]

Qur'an doesn't say 4 billion or anything about the age of Earth, but the following verses shed some light on it.

On the creation of the Universe
Qur'an 50:38 "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and no weariness even touched Us."

On the creation of the Earth
Qur'an 41:9 "Tell them, (O Prophet): “Do you indeed disbelieve in Him and assign compeers to Him Who created the earth in two days? He is the Lord of all beings of the Universe."

Ratio = 6/2 = 3.

As per modern cosmology,
Age of the Universe - 13.8 billion years
Age of the Earth - 4.543 billion years

Ratio = 13.8/4.543 which is approximately 3

What a load of gibberish nonsense.

 

[JASR]

Yes, it's a royal We and a royal Us. There is no third person plural used anywhere.

You seem to have missed off an important part of the 2 days quote

How long did it take to create the heavens and the earth?

‘41:12 Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days’

7 heavens in 2 days vs 1 heaven (and earth) in 6…

 

[Nascent Blues]

 

[Marklr]

 

[vmsuhail]

You seem to have missed off an important part of the 2 days quote

How long did it take to create the heavens and the earth?

‘41:12 Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days’

7 heavens in 2 days vs 1 heaven (and earth) in 6…

Notice in 41:12 , the word is not 'created' , instead 'completed ' or 'decreed', meaning the process had started earlier.
Heaven and the earth is a phrase used for the universe in general.

 

[paulsimpson]

Didn’t god supposedly create these frail selfish humans, and all their faults. Then had the audacity to prescribe they should not to be frail and selfish.

Sick bastard he/she/it is.

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

There is a match on mind

 

[Elbow beards]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

.. And in other fiction Harry Potter went to hogwarts.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

100% bullsh*t made up story IMO.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

Kids. Don’t do drugs.

 

[Marklr]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

Why do you believe in such nonsense?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

God created a perfect human being in a perfect world. The creation itself was perfect ( very good) and then the man sinned. He then began to die. Took a long while but the process began. He and his wife .
. After sin, plenty of faults, selfishness and eventual death. They could have lived forever only they chose to act against God's one rule in paradise.
The 2nd Adam ( Jesus, the Christ, Meschiach) destroyed the curse of death.

Top work. I think you should post this stuff in the joke thread though.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Qur'an doesn't say 4 billion or anything about the age of Earth, but the following verses shed some light on it.

On the creation of the Universe
Qur'an 50:38 "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and no weariness even touched Us."

On the creation of the Earth
Qur'an 41:9 "Tell them, (O Prophet): “Do you indeed disbelieve in Him and assign compeers to Him Who created the earth in two days? He is the Lord of all beings of the Universe."

Ratio = 6/2 = 3.

As per modern cosmology,
Age of the Universe - 13.8 billion years
Age of the Earth - 4.543 billion years

Ratio = 13.8/4.543 which is approximately 3

If the earth doesn't exist, then what is the definition of a day?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

If the earth doesn't exist, then what is the definition of a day?

I think it is whatever description fits the narrative as with most religious twaddle. Same as the other crap that isn't meant to be taken literally.