Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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117 M34 said:
It would leave them on 11 points at the halfway stage of the season so would be near certain to go down.
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Or if you looked at it sensibly, 6 points from Howe's first 8 games including 5 of the hardest teams in the league.

He needs about 30 points from the remaining 27 games. They'll stay up based on games vs. Norwich, Watford, Southampton, Brentford, not City, Liverpool and United.
 
domalino said:
I suppose when you have money you can afford to buy these players further along their development. Buy 21/22 year olds for £30m instead of 18/19 year olds for £15m
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True, although at 21/22, most good players will have established themselves and be worth more than £30m in the modern day market.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Who will go there in January?
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That’s going to be his - and Newcastle's - problem.

Was it the first January after the takeover that Shay and Nigel arrived?

There might be a few players willing to take the plunge, but it’s going to be very hard to get enough quality in to dig themselves out of the hole that the elephant man and the obese Cockney have landed them in.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Who will go there in January?
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Lots of players will go for the money. They don't need the best players, just a few good enough to keep them in the league.

It'll be interesting to see how he does. Often when a manager does well with a promoted team, it's because they've been given time to build a team and know them inside out by the time they get to the PL. They then get a bigger job where they're expected to perform straight away and it doesn't work out because actually it was the whole structure of the club that allowed them to succeed rather than their individual talent. Having said that, I rate Howe and I reckon he'll do alright. I'm surprised they didn't go for Graham Potter though. Maybe they did and he refused?
 
Vienna_70 said:
That’s going to be his - and Newcastle's - problem.

Was it the first January after the takeover that Shay and Nigel arrived?

There might be a few players willing to take the plunge, but it’s going to be very hard to get enough quality in to dig themselves out of the hole that the elephant man and the obese Cockney have landed them in.
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They might be able to get a few loans in too.

Lingard maybe? Origi? Barkley?

They may go and keep them up.
 
can you imagine eddie howe bossing around superstar players ? 1st question would be who are you again. 2nd question what have you won as player/manager. then fuck off am not doing that shit training

i think its short term job for eddie howe in trying to keep them up. but if they go down he would be the best manager to take them back up
 
ancoats said:
can you imagine eddie howe bossing around superstar players ? 1st question would be who are you again. 2nd question what have you won as player/manager. then fuck off am not doing that shit training

i think its short term job for eddie howe in trying to keep them up. but if they go down he would be the best manager to take them back up
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Contracted to 2024, there's no chance he'll see that out, he'll be lucky no matter if they do down and he wins promotion or if they somehow stay up to see the end of 22/23.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Yeah and Bellamy and Bridge too. But that was also after a summer where we'd bought Kompany, Zabaleta (not high profile at the time, to be fair), Wright-Phillips and Robinho.
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manchester city was a settled premier league club of 5 years by the time our owners took over
this was a big thing in how quick the turn around happened and the platform to build the foundations

newcastle are based on sand at the moment and a big investment right away could mean trouble
i think eddie howe is short term and the right thing. but if they sign the superstars in January and one bad result then it can be like a freight train out of control and you will get relegated
 
I quite like Howe and was impressed he managed to keep Bournemouth up as long as he did.

I don't think he's likely to be able to take Newcastle to where they ultimately want to go, but for their short and medium term aims (stay in the PL, become reliably mid-table, build a solid platform to grow from) he's probably a decent choice.

I hope he has the freedom to choose who he brings into the club, especially in January. I don't think they need superstars right now, they need hard work and experience of grinding out results to move away from the relegation zone.
 
citydad said:
Eddie Howe is an everton fan and one of his first signings in January I reckon will be Nathan Ake.
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Ake will be right up their street. He will want to go for the minutes he cant get right now. I suspect we only got him to cover in the event of Stones going but right now we have three top CBs plus some youngsters. No harm in letting Ake go.
 
KS55 said:
Ake will be right up their street. He will want to go for the minutes he cant get right now. I suspect we only got him to cover in the event of Stones going but right now we have three top CBs plus some youngsters. No harm in letting Ake go.
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I think we signed him because we weren’t sure that Laporte would fully recover from his knee injury and we wanted left sided cover. But yeah he would seem to be the most expendable if we wanted to move one on. And we should get close to our money back from Newcastle
 
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