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Cases of the Omicron variant are now being treated in hospitals.

"I can confirm to you this morning there are cases in hospital with Omicron," cabinet minister Nadhim Zahawi has said.
Is it really what that statement says ?
Cases in hospital could quite simply be people who are in for other conditions who have then been tested and found to have this variant. It does show it is clearly spreading in the populace but not necessarily causing severe disease.
It’s been the same all along with the figures for both hospitalisations and deaths including people who were hospitalised for completely different reasons or died due to unrelated conditions.
 
The mild illness argument is coming from some GPs and Drs who make videos and gets picked up and repeated.

They should present the argument another way: no reason to think that omicron is any less virulent than any other previous strain but in populations with high exposure to the virus it will lead to a predominantly mild illness.

That still leaves us with a big problem that's hard to quantify because if you have 250,000 infections a day, and some people who have limited exposure / poor immune response, you are going to see 'some' serious illness.

We'll probably get a better handle on this when we see the extent of hospitalisation in the limited omicron infections we have seen in the UK population i.e. more accurate information going into models.

yeah, why should we even listen to GP's and Dr's who have seen everything first hand and don't even look at spreadsheets and databases.
 
Anyone know if I can get a booster anywhere?

Almost 6 months since I had my second jab but am 34 so not officially eligible yet on the NHS site.
If you're based in Tameside, there is the local CCG website (you would need to be registered with a GP in Tameside otherwise it won't let you book), which lets you book a booster slot, for under 40's. Got mine on Friday (Pfizer). I've messaged you the link.
 


Good luck with that, John. Maybe it will be OK to let everyone out again before Cop27 or whichever next global event you're happy to host, inviting hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world into the country. Just 3 more weeks to 'flatten the curve' eh?

Get fucked, not falling for that shite again.
 


Good luck with that, John. Maybe it will be OK to let everyone out again before Cop27 or whichever next global event you're happy to host, inviting hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world into the country. Just 3 more weeks to 'flatten the curve' eh?

Get fucked, not falling for that shite again.


Agree completely.
 
yeah, why should we even listen to GP's and Dr's who have seen everything first hand and don't even look at spreadsheets and databases.

I've literally just posted the UKHSA assessment

There are insufficient data to assess severity, which is expected in the early period of emergence of a new variant.

Why do you think your trawl of the Internet is better informed?

 
I've literally just posted the UKHSA assessment

There are insufficient data to assess severity, which is expected in the early period of emergence of a new variant.

Why do you think your trawl of the Internet is better informed?

The UK takes an extremely myopic viewpoint with their own data. It's why we have had soooo many deaths compared to other countries. I'd rather listen to GPs and Drs on the front line than someone sat behind a desk. If the UKHSA did that from the start of the pandemic then they would have saved tens of thousands of lives
 
Confusing Covid with Flu is pointless Covid death rate is many times more. If this new variant was to start causing large scale hospitalisations we could be in big trouble.
covid killed loads because it went unvaccinated for a good year
my point being if omicron proves(fingers crossed) to be mild then it does become like a normal flu season helped by yearly vaccinations, then we can get on living our lives and living with it
 
covid killed loads because it went unvaccinated for a good year
my point being if omicron proves(fingers crossed) to be mild then it does become like a normal flu season helped by yearly vaccinations, then we can get on living our lives and living with it
I wish, just can't see life getting back to pre covid for quite some time sadly.
 
I've literally just posted the UKHSA assessment

There are insufficient data to assess severity, which is expected in the early period of emergence of a new variant.

Why do you think your trawl of the Internet is better informed?

Possibly because other scientific views from other countries are available? Some of which are more progressed in their study of Omircron that the UK? Just a thought.
 
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