Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Managed to book my booster in for the Etihad on Wednesday, looks like while officially over 30s can book from tomorrow, they’ve updated the website already.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Don’t know.
Don't know.
Don’t know.
No science, so can’t be shit.
Limited reporting, no idea if shit or all they’ve been given.
Antivaxxers and antimaskers don’t need encouragement to spout their shit.

I wasn’t offended by the report of some cases now in hospital.

I read it thought, yeah, that’s probably true, but it doesn’t really tell us much and carried on with my day.

I was referring to the science being reported. These numbers are known but are not being published. They need to be.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I'm a statical mathematician by training.
I and many others in my profession think the models are shit. Worse they do nothing to correct them with each wave.
It does science no favours at all.

So are you saying that you know better than the vast consensus of scientists and experts on the subject?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I was referring to the science being reported. These numbers are known but are not being published. They need to be.

It is a Sunday though. Accurate figures have never been given out on a Sunday throughout the pandemic.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Exactly they probably are but health officials know that and don't tend to weigh them above all else, it's only really the media that have done that. The government has put caution above everything else with the new measures because of what happened last year as opposed to following the models.

The funniest thing though is if a model came out tomorrow showing that everything will be fine then they'd publish that as well despite knowing they published something saying the opposite the week before.

It's all about likes and clicks and that's it.

You have a point.

 

[BlueAnorak]

So are you saying that you know better than the vast consensus of scientists and experts on the subject?

The models should get more and more accurate in light of real world data.
Over the last year, have they got more accurate?
Can they predict past waves with the latest models?
If they can't then it's bad science.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

This is the most accurate post on this thread in the last month.

Have you still got me on ignore? I wrote a brilliant thesis on here last week explaining why the Omnicron variant would beat the Delta variant in a straight fight over 3 rounds. I also find The Lancet very slow at responding to my emails.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

So are you saying that you know better than the vast consensus of scientists and experts on the subject?

He's a statistical mathematician, I'm a mathematical modeller we both know models are usually absolutely shit and SAGE has yet to prove that any of their models are anything like robust. That is all we are saying.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I know bad science when I see it.
The models should get more and more accurate in light of real world data.
Over the last year, have they got more accurate?

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think you know better than the vast consensus of scientists on this subject?

Are you a scientist or expert in the field of virology or epidemiology?

I'm not trying to be an arse but all i see you do is tell the experts they are wrong on a football forum.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You didn't answer the question.

Do you think you know better than the vast consensus of scientists on this subject?

Are you a scientist or expert in the field of virology or epidemiology?

I'm not trying to be an arse but all i see you do is tell the experts they are wrong on a football forum.

I don’t see myself as an expert to be fair. ;-)

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

He's a statistical mathematician, I'm a mathematical modeller we both know models are usually absolutely shit and SAGE has yet to prove that any of their models are anything like robust. That is all we are saying.

So you are saying that you are not an expert in this field, thank you.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

I don’t see myself as an expert to be fair. ;-)

tbf i don't see you telling everyone the scientists are wrong though.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Ah didn’t know this. Thanks blues.

Only catching up on thread so might be said by time I get to current posts, but you can book today according to the radio, the website has already been updated to allow it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

tbf i don't see you telling everyone the scientists are wrong though.

I can’t. I just read their studies and note their conclusions and apply what I think necessary to keep my household safe.

 

[blueinsa]

So you are saying that you are not an expert in this field, thank you.

The same experts that expertly say “could” and “might”?

Think about it and if you can, reply without calling me a moron ;-)

 

[BerkshireBlue]

So you are saying that you are not an expert in this field, thank you.

Im saying I'm a better mathematician than them because I am. I get paid by companies for my work as what I do is valuable. I don't sit in a uni office all day on low pay not bothered if my results are any good or not.

 

[BlueAnorak]

He's a statistical mathematician, I'm a mathematical modeller we both know models are usually absolutely shit and SAGE has yet to prove that any of their models are anything like robust. That is all we are saying.

Quite

 

[BlueAnorak]

So you are saying that you are not an expert in this field, thank you.

I know models should improve as data is collected.
They haven't improved over two years so I draw a mathematical conclusion as to the value of the models.

 

[DMA's]

I know it’s not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but if the football goes back to being behind closed doors I will be absolutely gutted. Concerned that it looks inevitable that this will indeed happen.

Football is my escape from the world in which I struggle daily from my extreme anxiety and other mental health problems. It’s like a comfort blanket and without fans it’s just not the same.

Pathetic I know but it’s the truth

 

[Gogootz]

Is the jury really still out on whether its more mild. Have you looked at any data other than what the UK provides?

Everything coming out of SA indicates it is more mild, In fact significantly more mild.

Check it out, I find it very helpful in alleviating the doom and gloom stuff being spouted by our own scientists and politicians. Which if im totally honest isnt doing my own mental wellbeing any good.

I am in the same boat as you pal, I'm just not licking any door handles yet until more conclusive evidence emerges (either way)