Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

When there’s 1000’s of empty seats it’s obviously going to sap any energy the crowd might have.

There genuinely needs to be something done about pricing of matchday tickets.

12:30 Sat games and midweek games that aren’t cat A should be capped at £25.

Get the thing packed out every week create demand that way.
I agree about the pricing to a large degree but those empty seats, or at least the majority, will have been sold. It's mainly people who have tickets and don't turn up. If anyone has any ideas about how we solve that problem then me & the club will be glad to hear them.

My two proposals would be:

1. Pay a smaller upfront fee to reserve a seat but then pay on a match-by-match basis. If you don't pay for your seat say 2 weeks before the game, it goes on open sale

2. Rather than give an up-front discount for season cards, charge full price but give rebates depending on how many games you actually attend (or the seat is used).
 
i bought mine at the start of the season, if you go to about 7 games you have your money back, and if you go to another 3 -4 games you get 20 back well in price of tickets
Good for you.

For those who want to go to one game, the cost is prohibitive.

You’re making out like you’re getting good value for your £35, but it used to cost you fuck all to have the right to buy a ticket.

It’s rank profiteering, pure and simple.
 
That's a pathetic response to a perfectly reasonable post.

Not everything in the garden is rosy for all City fans, so it's unfair of you to criticise anyone who doesn't have your seemingly perfect view of the club.

The atmosphere is shit. The prices are too high. The club aims to attract wealthier fans and pays lip-service to those who aren't.

The football we play is wonderful but the 'quality' of opposition makes City look like the Harlem Globetrotters in the great majority of games. Like the HGs, this entertainment eventually wears thin for regular watchers, but continues to attract high spending tourists/day trippers.

A bit of an extreme example perhaps, but that is the ideal scenario for the club hierarchy, and I suspect is precisely what they are aiming for, along with their fellow Super League conspirators.

The CFG is no more than a circus.
You are correct about prices, but prices are spiralling at the moment at all football clubs (in real life as well). City could and should definitely do more for the match going fan.

That said, Personally feel the rest of your post is absolutely fùcking pathetic.

Sticking up for the obvious pretend City fan @Long Slow Goodbye, well done you.

We only win because of the ‘quality’ of the opposition in front of us, many of these teams have spent record amounts for their respective assembled squads, yet turn up with nothing but spoiling tactics and don’t actually play to win, which should be the goal of each team we face, anyhow that is up to the opposition we face and not City.

As for City winning ‘wearing thin’, not for me it won’t. We could go back back to the halcyon days of sacking managers every few months and being relegated with utter fùcking idiots in the boardroom, well now I’ve written it, yes please!

As for our fellow Super League conspirators, yes we did join and yes that was certainly not a good decision from our board, but let’s not forget this was the second attempt by the American owned clubs to change the league system and it most certainly shouldn’t be forgotten they are the main driving force behind such schemes, something you deemed fit to omit.

You could always fùck City off, no one is holding you hostage for your continued support, why not form a FC City team with your fellow disgruntled fans and go back to the halcyon days of fraud mixed with huge dollops of mismanagement right through the club and the certainty of regular relegations, tear in my eye with those treasured memories…
 
The above post is about De Bruyne.


About Haaland



About Laporte.















@bobbyowenquiff how dare you have a go at an absolute genuine City fan as @Long Slow Goodbye.

No doubting his credentials with a quick selection from his posting history.

I only looked into his posting history as I felt it would be what Klopp would of wanted.
Klopp has only spent just over half a billion on players, shoestring budget and won everything worth winning, Fraudiola spent just over 15 trillion and won a couple of energy drinks. Long live Klopp.
Not many City fans I know agree with the poisonous narrative (spread by our enemies) that our owner bought City just to "promote Abu Dhabi" and has been involved in "dodgy land deals." I know those claims are totally false (at least as far as the Manchester investments are concerned). As I have said our club has enough enemies already without enabling their views on our fans's website.
 
I agree about the pricing to a large degree but those empty seats, or at least the majority, will have been sold. It's mainly people who have tickets and don't turn up. If anyone has any ideas about how we solve that problem then me & the club will be glad to hear them.

My two proposals would be:

1. Pay a smaller upfront fee to reserve a seat but then pay on a match-by-match basis. If you don't pay for your seat say 2 weeks before the game, it goes on open sale

2. Rather than give an up-front discount for season cards, charge full price but give rebates depending on how many games you actually attend (or the seat is used).
It's good that you are trying to find a solution but tbh point 2 would make my season ticket in the east stand well over a grand, not sure I would be prepared to shell out that sort of money even knowing I would be getting refunds. Any news from city matters and when or if more information from the meetings can be published?
 
That's a pathetic response to a perfectly reasonable post.

Not everything in the garden is rosy for all City fans, so it's unfair of you to criticise anyone who doesn't have your seemingly perfect view of the club.

The atmosphere is shit. The prices are too high. The club aims to attract wealthier fans and pays lip-service to those who aren't.

The football we play is wonderful but the 'quality' of opposition makes City look like the Harlem Globetrotters in the great majority of games. Like the HGs, this entertainment eventually wears thin for regular watchers, but continues to attract high spending tourists/day trippers.

A bit of an extreme example perhaps, but that is the ideal scenario for the club hierarchy, and I suspect is precisely what they are aiming for, along with their fellow Super League conspirators.

The CFG is no more than a circus.
I objected to his toxic comments about our owner accusing him of buying the club "to promote Abu Dhabi" and enable "dodgy land deals." That's what I call pathetic.
 
I agree about the pricing to a large degree but those empty seats, or at least the majority, will have been sold. It's mainly people who have tickets and don't turn up. If anyone has any ideas about how we solve that problem then me & the club will be glad to hear them.

My two proposals would be:

1. Pay a smaller upfront fee to reserve a seat but then pay on a match-by-match basis. If you don't pay for your seat say 2 weeks before the game, it goes on open sale

2. Rather than give an up-front discount for season cards, charge full price but give rebates depending on how many games you actually attend (or the seat is used).

Yea, I think money off next years season ticket if your seats filled ais a good incentive.

Have to say though I think more season ticket holders would turn up week in week out or more effort would be made to pass them on if the sold out signs were up every week.

Perceived demand etc

Was pretty clear that it wasn’t going to sell out yesterday, so an early kick off with guaranteed empty sections just before Christmas becomes a chore and self perpetuates into a flat atmosphere. Which makes it more likely ST holders won’t make the effort.

First off i’d stop selling returned away tickets until we consistently sell out the home areas.

Then maybe offer pretty large advanced purchase discounts for matchday sales.

If you could get fixtures sold out 2 weeks beforehand, i’m sure more ST holders would go or at least more effort made for their seats be filled.

Seems to me that if your going on a 1 off basis there is more incentive to wait to buy your ticket and hope a £30 one comes up from returned away tickets or someone in SSL3 puts theirs up on ticket exchange.

Which means the games very rarely sell out.
 
I agree about the pricing to a large degree but those empty seats, or at least the majority, will have been sold. It's mainly people who have tickets and don't turn up. If anyone has any ideas about how we solve that problem then me & the club will be glad to hear them.

My two proposals would be:

1. Pay a smaller upfront fee to reserve a seat but then pay on a match-by-match basis. If you don't pay for your seat say 2 weeks before the game, it goes on open sale

2. Rather than give an up-front discount for season cards, charge full price but give rebates depending on how many games you actually attend (or the seat is used).
There are large blocks of seats empty, particularly in CB3.

It’s pretty far fetched to think they’ve all been sold and by pure coincidence all the people who sit together have all chosen not to come.

It seems pretty clear these blocks have been sold to 3rd parties offering matchday packages and they’re not selling.

The other thing the club have to realise is the £35 “membership fee” is an absolute liberty and is putting off thousands of casual blues from attending.

Waiting until the last minute so you don’t have to pay the fee means invariably there’s no seats left together, so you can’t sit with your mates, and people just sack it off.

£50 a ticket for Wolves at home is taking the piss as it is, but an extra £35 just to have the privilege of being able to buy a ticket in advance and sit with friends or family is just an absolute pisstake.

It’s the kind of strategy you’d expect from Ryanair.
 
For a club so obsessed with marginal gains and doing absolutely everything they can to maximise on pitch performance, bizzare to think they don’t see a packed home ground with a good/intimidating atmosphere as really important.

We definitely avoid more marketable players who would probably bring in more commercial revenue but possibly have a negative affect on the team balance.

But the board are seemingly happy to view the stadium attendance as fully commercial element in which ticket revenue is more important than any atmosphere benefit to on pitch results.
 
I have found all but a couple of games in the Prem at home this season dull due to the way teams set up. If I had paid £50 plus for that crap today I would have been disappointed.

The Paris and Leipzig Games were the best games I have attended this season and the atmosphere in those two games were the best too.

Like I said earlier and I never thought I would but I am starting to choose champions league over the PL. Simple because they are mostly better games, better atmosphere, better pricing.

I dont think this is Citys fault its because so many away teams play anti football. I would still take the premier league over champions league.

I still attend PL but in February and March I choose more carefully with CL in mind
 
The blame has to go somehwere, be that towards our fans or the board for pricing the tickets. Yesterday shocked me a bit, you often get empty seats in patches, but that was the worst I’ve seen for home game for ages. Somethings not right, we can easily fill the stadium every week, but there’s a problem that needs fixing.
Still giving allowances for the excuses of Covid, deferrals, extortionate ticket prices, the club not understanding our fanbase, opposing teams not coming to play so games are boring, it being just before Christmas, it raining a bit, it being a bit cold… I was still gob smacked at that yesterday! That was like a City game under Stuart Pearce, swathes of empty seats and hardly any noise from our fans whatsoever.

It feels like someone has pulled the plug on our support, lost the plug, and there’s no batteries to use instead.
 
Because the time has come that a few home truths need saying about our support!
The club can definitely do more for season tickets holders from the ticket office right through to the actual match day, and as I guess you might be indicating the fans can also do more to help with the atmosphere rather than just criticise the club (apologies if that is not what you meant).

The frustrating thing about reading a thread like this is the City fans who seem to have no enjoyment from the actual game or the way we play, I really don’t understand that side of it and they then use their own antipathy about everything to do with the club.
 
1. Scrap the £35 membership fee
2. Cap home tickets @ £30 for adults, £10 for children.
3. Cap @ £20 across all non-corp areas of the SS, £5 for kids to generate a ‘singing stand’
4. Incentivise ST holders who attend all 19 games to receive discounts on food & drink the following season for selected games.
5. Look at moving away fans to another area

Would suggest that would be problem sorted, never be done though, despite match day ticket sales making a fraction of the clubs operating income.
 
The club can definitely do more for season tickets holders from the ticket office right through to the actual match day, and as I guess you might be indicating the fans can also do more to help with the atmosphere rather than just criticise the club (apologies if that is not what you meant).

The frustrating thing about reading a thread like this is the City fans who seem to have no enjoyment from the actual game or the way we play, I really don’t understand that side of it and they then use their own antipathy about everything to do with the club.
Yeah that is what I meant mate. The club can certainly do a hell of a lot more (a hell of a lot!), but by fuck we need fucking plugging in again as a set of fans. The apathy to create an atmosphere is painful to be part of!

I too can’t understand people saying games are boring. It’s the best football that’s ever been seen in this country. And I’ll never understand how anyone can get up and walk out in tight games that are level or just one goal in it. Games like Southampton and yesterday, I was on the edge of my seat all game, how can people be bored or leave in that situation? We’re going for a title for fuck’s sake, it’s not like we’re mid-table in the Championship under no threat of relegation or no chance promotion so it doesn’t matter. Every single point and goal matters, and the strive to want the team to get it seems to have disappeared with too many just sitting there waiting for it to happen then just moaning if it ever doesn’t.

And people moaning about a 12:30 when it’s only 150 minutes before a 15:00 and we get the whole of the rest of the day in the pub after the game. 12:30s on Saturdays are belting!
 
You mean our owner who has only been to the ground once and has little or no interest in football?
Ah, this old gem. City is an investment to him and his other business interests, he is not a person from our local area and has many interests across the world.

Only been to the ground once, yes, seen him on various social media and other media celebrating City title/cups wins many times with his children and members of his family and friends, so does seem engaged with the actual club.

Many members of this forum are passionate City fans and yet have never been to the ground or Manchester or this country, do they also have little or no interest in football? Lots of City fans in this country never go to the match for various reasons, but they are sill invested and passionate about City as those that do. In addition, how do you know he has little or no interest in football?

We could always have the owners of liverpool, united, Arsenal who are often seen at matches, maybe that’s because they are very busy transferring the literal billions they have taken out of those clubs increasing their own vast respective wealth, amazing owners, match day attendees.

Meanwhile our non-interested owner stays home and lets the people he chose to run the actual club we support to do their actual jobs and ensure it’s one of the best run clubs in the world with money generated invested back into it. The absolute bastard!

Supporters like you are never going to be happy, don’t see the reason you continue to be honest, oh wait, I may of just made a generalisation of you as you did with Mansour.
 
Ah, this old gem. City is an investment to him and his other business interests, he is not a person from our local area and has many interests across the world.

Only been to the ground once, yes, seen him on various social media and other media celebrating City title/cups wins many times with his children and members of his family and friends, so does seem engaged with the actual club.

Many members of this forum are passionate City fans and yet have never been to the ground or Manchester or this country, do they also have little or no interest in football? Lots of City fans in this country never go to the match for various reasons, but they are sill invested and passionate about City as those that do. In addition, how do you know he has little or no interest in football?

We could always have the owners of liverpool, united, Arsenal who are often seen at matches, maybe that’s because they are very busy transferring the literal billions they have taken out of those clubs increasing their own vast respective wealth, amazing owners, match day attendees.

Meanwhile our non-interested owner stays home and lets the people he chose to run the actual club we support to do their actual jobs and ensure it’s one of the best run clubs in the world with money generated invested back into it. The absolute bastard!

Supporters like you are never going to be happy, don’t see the reason you continue to be honest, oh wait, I may of just made a generalisation of you as you did with Mansour.
I made no generalisation of Sheikh Mansour. I simply quoted a fact.

You're exactly the type of supporter the club is aiming for. They deserve you.
 

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