Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I've been in the queue to book my booster for about 70 minutes and it's just crashed. At least it looks like people are taking up the option.
 
Irrespective of what happens in the next month, the people in the UK are going to have to sit down and have a serious conversation about the NHS and how health is funded in the future. The threat of variants may gradually diminish but will not go away overnight, and the country simply cannot continue screeching to a halt each time the NHS is threatened.
 
cleavers said:
My experience of public transport and in particular football fans (but including christmas shoppers) over the last 3 weeks is that nobody is even trying to sensible, they'll go get their boosters obviously, and still not care a jot, thinking they've done their bit.

Personal responsibility isn't difficult if you care, but most, in my view, aren't even trying.
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I prefer to look at how many are wearing them and presume those that aren’t are exempt, as it makes life a bit easier!
Was on a plane on Friday and everyone was masked up and throughout the airport was the same. Got a negative test result today so went to Peterborough to get some shopping and everyone was masked as well. Not a random sample I suppose, and it was Waitrose (!) but a different experience to yours.
 
Not been on for a while so a quick recap.
The jab is not a cure.
The jab does not stop infection.
The jab does not stop transmission.
I have no problem with my tax being used for those that are at risk or have a valid reason for wanting the jab, holidays do not come into it for me.
So what has happened since? a Government advisor has claimed masks are 85% efficient, a lie but they are still in a job, masks efficiency is quite good against pollutants but against germs and viruses they are not airtight so their efficiency is almost nil, add that that warm wet gap between mask and face is a breeding ground for viruses and germs, masks become a health hazard that only disposing of on a regular basis stops, we have the figures that prove masks are ineffective just look at Scotland or Wales, but more important schools are forcing children to wear masks for long periods of time, parents should demand this ceases.
The Government is now pushing the jab onto children, understandable if i were in charge of a failing drug i would want as many people with a better immunity to take my drug so i could boost the figures. The head of the NHS announce COVID hospitalized figures that were nearly 10x the actual numbers their secretary realized the lie and claimed it was a different time period this was only 6x the number, amazingly both who are paid for figures are still in a job., the Guardian ran with a story of a health worker resenting working on non jabbed patients with COVID, so lets look at the people they resent which was 60% around 6700. A those too ill to have the jab, B those who caught COVID in hospital C those in hospital for other reasons D those in hospital for COVID, those with the jab would also have B,C, and D quite clearly this health worker needs to find another job, but it does raise the question of overburdening the NHS a question that has been irrelevant since the closing of the Nightingale hospitals, but one of these professors with access to the flow charts put the figure at 1% and unlikely to rise with the new mild version, a government advisor said yesterday on BBC radio that up to 70,000 could die from COVID in the next 5 month, a lie and scare mongering, but up to 70,000 could die with COVID after all more than 70,000 will die and the chance of them having the new version as well is quite high which tells you just how much this advisor rates the efficiency of the jab, last week one of the drug company announced that COVID will be with us for years and with their employees at the WHO using the system of counting that they do ensures the the goose that lays the golden egg will be laying those trillion dollar eggs for a long time.
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Not been on for a while so a quick recap.
The jab is not a cure.
The jab does not stop infection.
The jab does not stop transmission.
I have no problem with my tax being used for those that are at risk or have a valid reason for wanting the jab, holidays do not come into it for me.
So what has happened since? a Government advisor has claimed masks are 85% efficient, a lie but they are still in a job, masks efficiency is quite good against pollutants but against germs and viruses they are not airtight so their efficiency is almost nil, add that that warm wet gap between mask and face is a breeding ground for viruses and germs, masks become a health hazard that only disposing of on a regular basis stops, we have the figures that prove masks are ineffective just look at Scotland or Wales, but more important schools are forcing children to wear masks for long periods of time, parents should demand this ceases.
The Government is now pushing the jab onto children, understandable if i were in charge of a failing drug i would want as many people with a better immunity to take my drug so i could boost the figures. The head of the NHS announce COVID hospitalized figures that were nearly 10x the actual numbers their secretary realized the lie and claimed it was a different time period this was only 6x the number, amazingly both who are paid for figures are still in a job., the Guardian ran with a story of a health worker resenting working on non jabbed patients with COVID, so lets look at the people they resent which was 60% around 6700. A those too ill to have the jab, B those who caught COVID in hospital C those in hospital for other reasons D those in hospital for COVID, those with the jab would also have B,C, and D quite clearly this health worker needs to find another job, but it does raise the question of overburdening the NHS a question that has been irrelevant since the closing of the Nightingale hospitals, but one of these professors with access to the flow charts put the figure at 1% and unlikely to rise with the new mild version, a government advisor said yesterday on BBC radio that up to 70,000 could die from COVID in the next 5 month, a lie and scare mongering, but up to 70,000 could die with COVID after all more than 70,000 will die and the chance of them having the new version as well is quite high which tells you just how much this advisor rates the efficiency of the jab, last week one of the drug company announced that COVID will be with us for years and with their employees at the WHO using the system of counting that they do ensures the the goose that lays the golden egg will be laying those trillion dollar eggs for a long time.
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Tell me you're anti-vax without telling me you're anti-vax.
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Not been on for a while so a quick recap.
The jab is not a cure.
The jab does not stop infection.
The jab does not stop transmission.
I have no problem with my tax being used for those that are at risk or have a valid reason for wanting the jab, holidays do not come into it for me.
So what has happened since? a Government advisor has claimed masks are 85% efficient, a lie but they are still in a job, masks efficiency is quite good against pollutants but against germs and viruses they are not airtight so their efficiency is almost nil, add that that warm wet gap between mask and face is a breeding ground for viruses and germs, masks become a health hazard that only disposing of on a regular basis stops, we have the figures that prove masks are ineffective just look at Scotland or Wales, but more important schools are forcing children to wear masks for long periods of time, parents should demand this ceases.
The Government is now pushing the jab onto children, understandable if i were in charge of a failing drug i would want as many people with a better immunity to take my drug so i could boost the figures. The head of the NHS announce COVID hospitalized figures that were nearly 10x the actual numbers their secretary realized the lie and claimed it was a different time period this was only 6x the number, amazingly both who are paid for figures are still in a job., the Guardian ran with a story of a health worker resenting working on non jabbed patients with COVID, so lets look at the people they resent which was 60% around 6700. A those too ill to have the jab, B those who caught COVID in hospital C those in hospital for other reasons D those in hospital for COVID, those with the jab would also have B,C, and D quite clearly this health worker needs to find another job, but it does raise the question of overburdening the NHS a question that has been irrelevant since the closing of the Nightingale hospitals, but one of these professors with access to the flow charts put the figure at 1% and unlikely to rise with the new mild version, a government advisor said yesterday on BBC radio that up to 70,000 could die from COVID in the next 5 month, a lie and scare mongering, but up to 70,000 could die with COVID after all more than 70,000 will die and the chance of them having the new version as well is quite high which tells you just how much this advisor rates the efficiency of the jab, last week one of the drug company announced that COVID will be with us for years and with their employees at the WHO using the system of counting that they do ensures the the goose that lays the golden egg will be laying those trillion dollar eggs for a long time.
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A difficult read but agree on many of the points in it or at least I think I do lol ;-)
 
Bluewonder said:
So you would need anywhere between 12 and 17.5x the number of infections to see a similar impact on hospitals. This seems extraordinarily unlikely.
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the projections worked on 20m infections translating into 175k hospitalisations and 25k deaths. By end of April. So about 150k cases a day.

10-15 was the very first wave so lots of improvements since then.
 
Managed to book for meself and the missus a week Monday, the page kept cutting out in the queue but refreshing it brought us back and kept our place (- for anyone struggling on the website atm)
 
blueinsa said:
A difficult read but agree on many of the points in it or at least I think I do lol ;-)
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Two Gun Bob said:
Syntax paragraph and punctuation etc etc etc
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I'll summarise it to make it easier to read.

The jab, gabble, gabble, babble.
Masks, gabble, babble, babble.
COVID, gabble, gabble, babble,
A, B, C, D, babble gabble, gabble.
70,000 gabble, gabble, babble.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
"Just 3 more weeks of a sustained effort by the great British public and we are hopeful that by Christmas time next year, you will be able to celebrate properly with your families and then bring in the year 2031 together "
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I honestly think this week will see us up here hit with restrictions that seemingly always have to go that one step further than everyone else.

Hope I am wrong.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I prefer to look at how many are wearing them and presume those that aren’t are exempt, as it makes life a bit easier!
Was on a plane on Friday and everyone was masked up and throughout the airport was the same. Got a negative test result today so went to Peterborough to get some shopping and everyone was masked as well. Not a random sample I suppose, and it was Waitrose (!) but a different experience to yours.
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Well I've done 10 trains in 2 weeks going to the football, all the trains contained a mix of football fans and (christmas) shoppers, there's no way that 90% of the country are exempt from wearing them (ie being sensible), and all the train companies are/have been asking people to wear masks, some of the trains absolutely packed so that standing between seats was even crowded.

Its an empirical observation I know, but it's not random, people have stopped giving a f*ck, no amount of press conferences by government will make a blind bit of difference, people don't have any personal responsibility for either themselves or anyone else.

Yesterday for example, an employee of northern rail got on the train I was on as passenger (presumably going to, or on the way home from work), fairly busy train. She was wearing a badge imploring people to wear a mask, she even told someone to to take their feet of the seat, then sat there with no mask on, a great example to the rest of us, obviously there is a small chance she cant wear one because she's exempt, so maybe I shouldn't judge her.
 
With the rise of Omicron and the uncertainty it brings should we now be playing the games behind closed doors? The team have cancelled their Christmas party to protect them and their families but the club is allowing 50000 fans to attend games. This does not make sense.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
You could, perhaps, if you feel you know better than the London school of hygiene and tropical medicine, lay out for us mortals lacking your intellect, exactly where they went wrong and what the correct analysis is.

Otherwise it might seem that you're just a blowhard.
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I can just tell the difference between actual numbers that are sub 1000 compared with predictions of 2000 to 7000. Best case. Lol. I dont need to be an expert. Not my job to predict numbers is it? But another nice try at diversion. You're a bit like Borris arent you cant accept when you're wrong.

Pretty easy to spot the differnce. Unless your roubiax.

 
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