Coronavirus (2021) thread

[mosssideblue]

So at the moment that's almost every country in the world.

I agree with the stance France has taken. Wish more would do the same

 

[Marvin]

A friend in Cambridge was in hospital for a couple of weeks (in her 80s) but was given a booster however she contracted Covid 2 days later.
Luckily she has pulled through with hospital care but I think a booster needs a week or 2 to build up its purpose.

Yes 7-14 days I believe. My Mum has now been discharged but we are struggling to get her a booster. It will happen but she needs someone to come out to her.

 

[inbetween]

My mate was due to fly France Saturday morning for a skiing trip - breaking news that France will not allow British tourists. So harsh.

Ridiculous decision and clearly political. France has an outbreak that is quite likely to be worse than ours because they test and sequence significantly less.

The UK is supposedly the epicentre of Omicron but it's because we are doing quite literally all of the hauling globally with respect to sequencing and identification.

If we quit the sequencing and testing then we'd have the best results in the world, maybe then they'd open the borders? Completely stupid.

 

[Tonster]

I agree with the stance France has taken. Wish more would do the same

And it will do what exactly?

 

[Marvin]

They have now.

France have a long and colourful history of vaccination hesitancy. It’s a big problem there and that clown stoked the fires early on.

The French population has a higher rate of 1st and 2nd vaccination than the UK.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Ridiculous decision and clearly political. France has an outbreak that is quite likely to be worse than ours because they test and sequence significantly less.

The UK is supposedly the epicentre of Omicron but it's because we are doing quite literally all of the hauling globally with respect to sequencing and identification.

If we quit the sequencing and testing then we'd have the best results in the world, maybe then they'd open the borders? Completely stupid.

Us and Denmark to be fair.

But broadly I completely agree.

 

[mosssideblue]

And it will do what exactly?

Keep things contained to their own countries to deal with.

 

[BobKowalski]

They have now.

France have a long and colourful history of vaccination hesitancy. It’s a big problem there and that clown stoked the fires early on.

Well, clearly not that big a problem when it became a real life issue and not a theoretical one.

Macron’s comments were an issue here because we felt slighted. Then we restricted and then binned off AZ, which everyone conveniently forgets. The US never authorised AZ and that was a way bigger deal, yet no one mentions that either.

 

[hammocity]

A dead arm - more so than when I had my first two. But apart from that I’m fine. Had a bit of a headache and felt tired last night but a couple of paracetamol sorted that.

Going for jabs every three months is ridiculous and completely unworkable from a logistics and cost perspective. It just can’t be the way forward.

Annual optional booster like they do for the flu? Fine.

Queuing up for three hours at some Army emergency tent hooked up to a squash court by the Etihad four times a year? Dream on.

Each to his own but I’m an unpaid career for my 88 year old Dad, I can’t risk passing it on to him as he’s very vulnerable, I’ll be doing everything possible including as many jabs as required to keep him safe. I have real concerns about this variant, sounds like there’s a good chance of getting it, worrying me immensely.

 

[paulchapo]

I agree with the stance France has taken. Wish more would do the same

Good for you. The genie is out of the bottle regarding Omicron which is why we scrapped our red list.

 

[mosssideblue]

Good for you. The genie is out of the bottle regarding Omicron which is why we scrapped our red list.

Whilst the effects are not completely understood, it would be stupid to permit free travel into another country. Fully understand and agree with the French stance.

 

[blueinsa]

Nice to hear that independent sage are calling for an immediate 10 day firebreak lockdown.

Well I never……

Footage of Ruth Davidson the other day funnily enough talking about a firebreak.

Maybe just maybe that’s been the plan all along?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Sounds like we've woken up to more optimistic news regarding the severity of Omicron. Just one thing though - if it truly does turn out to be far less deadly and takes over as the dominant strain across the globe (as appears to be happening), while that would be good news long-term, is it not possible that it could mutate into something worse again further down the line? Or would that be very difficult to envisage due to Omicron being so much more transmissible than the other main variants?

Apologies for the pessimistic sounding post! I'm in the optimistic camp regarding Omicron but just interested to know

This may be of interest as to the future potential path.

Far too early to know.

 

[inbetween]

Keep things contained to their own countries to deal with.

It doesn't work though, the pandemic over the last 2 years has proven it. France currently has an open border to every country in Europe and every country in the world seemingly now except the UK.

It is completely inevitable that Omicron cases will explode there and they probably already are. The only reason why we know the extent of our cases and why it looks so bad is because we sequence and test more than anyone else.

 

[Marvin]

Each to his own but I’m an unpaid career for my 88 year old Dad, I can’t risk passing it on to him as he’s very vulnerable, I’ll be doing everything possible including as many jabs as required to keep him safe. I have real concerns about this variant, sounds like there’s a good chance of getting it, worrying me immensely.

Same here. It possibly is less virulent but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty.

 

[paulchapo]

Whilst the effects are not completely understood, it would be stupid to permit free travel into another country. Fully understand and agree with the French stance.

It's there now as it is in every country in the world, though perhaps a couple may have escaped it so far. Banning anyone isn't going to stop it multiplying in France.

 

[SilverFox2]

A dead arm - more so than when I had my first two. But apart from that I’m fine. Had a bit of a headache and felt tired last night but a couple of paracetamol sorted that.

Going for jabs every three months is ridiculous and completely unworkable from a logistics and cost perspective. It just can’t be the way forward.

Annual optional booster like they do for the flu? Fine.

Queuing up for three hours at some Army emergency tent hooked up to a squash court by the Etihad four times a year? Dream on.

If the booster wanes after 2 months and or the Omnicon gets a more lethal varient what do we do?
Certainly we would all like to have an annual jab at our doctors along with flu and pneumonia but currently we are still at the reactive stage with Covid are we not?

 

[blueinsa]

“In a few days”

The slowest Tsunami in history so far.

Maybe it’s just a big wave?

Im sure we will all find out in a few days time.

 

[SWP's back]

Booked in for my booster at 8am tomorrow.

Feeling very lucky.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Well, clearly not that big a problem when it became a real life issue and not a theoretical one.

Macron’s comments were an issue here because we felt slighted. Then we restricted and then binned off AZ, which everyone conveniently forgets. The US never authorised AZ and that was a way bigger deal, yet no one mentions that either.

Macrons arguably the biggest populist out of all the major world leaders.

He said the jab was quasi ineffective.

Solely to take the heat off their initial slow roll out.