Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Manc Born & Bred]

Crazy week for us.

Wife took our daughter for a PCR on Monday because she had symptoms, just to be on safe side.

My daughter tested negative but my wife, who is double jabbed and also had the booster, in addition to having Covid this time last year, tested positive.

We were mystified and distraught in equal measure. Then my wife was worried she had mixed up the sample in the drive through, so she went back for another PCR the following day and tested negative.

I also took my daughter again and she again tested negative, as did both myself and son.

We spoke to Track and Trace and said there must surely be a false positive for my wife, but the person on the other end of the phone insisted the first test took precedent and she must self-isolate, which she had been doing inside the home since Monday, away from the rest of us.

She also tested negative on all the lateral flows she had done, including on the day she went for original PCR test and the subsequent days after.

She went for a third PCR test on the Wednesday and this also came back negative (we did this to establish beyond all doubt that Monday's test was clearly wrong) and mainly to make an informed decision as a family that we would not isolate from each other inside the home longer than the two nights we had already done so.

She is a teacher and takes lateral flows three times a week, as do the rest of us. She will continue to isolate at home until December 23 but it sticks in the throat (pardon the pun) that something wasn't right.

I wonder how many other people get a false positive?

Whole family caught covid back in July. Went with the wife on holiday in October and her two day PCR test came back positive despite no symptoms. She then took two further tests both negative but track and trace kept on calling and insisting she isolate for 10 days. They even called at 7.45 in the morning and wanted me to wake her up! Apparently she shouldn't have taken a PCR test originally as had Covid less than 90 days previously and supposedly this can still show in a PCR test.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Never mind. You don't get it. With all due respect, we'll leave it there as there's literally no point.

Anybody who doesn’t put any form of positive rhetoric in here gets dog’s abuse these days.

 

[twosips]

No I perfectly understand. I just place value on different things than you. That's not the same thing.

Nah, you don't get my point at all. It wasn't about the study. As often is the case, it's about how things are said, not what is said. You basically shut it down dead. Sure, be dispassionate and calculated, but you simply cannot ignore that right now this is an exceptionally emotional and distressing time for many people. We can't remove that from the equation. If you wanna talk like that, do it amongst the right people and don't expect that everyone will also act in the same way. We're not bloody scientists, we don't have to be dispassionate cos it isn't our jobs to be like that.

We're people, largely pretty fed up, who were quite excited to see respected scientists and professionals sharing some hopeful news. There is no need to shut that down. I'm sure you didn't intend to shut it down, but you did at the same time with a blunt dismissal. I don't think you meant any harm for one second or meant to - I do think you didn't realise what you were doing, tonally. Your post was basically 'nah, that means nowt' and it does make people like me go 'oh here we go...can we not grab onto one bit of hope for more than a minute please?'.

I don't think i'm being unreasonable here. Dismiss it as emotional nonsense if you want to, but that is literally the point i'm making. Sometimes people need emotional nonsense to get through the day. We're human. It's what we do. By all means say further data is needed, but read the room at the same time. Or don't! You might not care about what i've said. Fine, but at the same time don't be surprised by the reaction. If you are, then as I said - you don't get it. People have a right now to feel emotional right towards some bits of news, and that has to be respected (in its own way) because this isn't a place where we all have to be cold and calculated. Most people use this place to vent and to hopefully hear some good news. There's fuck all wrong with that.

Edit - you're welcome to disagree, fair enough of course. I'm gonna leave it there though and try and get some work done. Have a good day man.

 

[PragueBlue]

To back that up, the professor that has been (IMO) by far the most balanced throughout this whole thing even seems positive about the study too.

Early days but certainly better to hear potentially positive news than the more usual negative variety..

 

[Gogootz]

You lot are weird. We're discussing a scientific paper. Or I thought we were, now I'm wondering what we're actually doing here.

Anyone that remains objective/pragmatic with the non definitive Twitter data threads get labelled as miserable lockdown shaggers these days Damo

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Finally beat the failing NHS website to book my booster. I'm 40+ but by the time I got round to it, Boris had opened the floodgates. Which is a bit of a pain - this not being a city centre, all appointments are next bloody year, and me COVID passport expires 19th.

Just turn up at your local centre mate, they will do it there and then. Just tell them your appointment was for next month but then your doc said the timelines for booster jabs had been brought forward.

I did this last week and they aren't standing on ceremony, just getting shots into arms, you just need to give them your date of birth and address and they will find you on their system.

 

[twosips]

Anyone that remains objective/pragmatic with the non definitive Twitter data threads get labelled as miserable lockdown shaggers these days Damo

Bearing in mind that literally no one said that.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Take the positive that its negative if that makes sense

That's a positive, bud, certainly not a negative ;)

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Absolutely none. She had lateral flow on the Monday morning before taking our ten-year-old because she had a temperature through the night.

She wasn't even going to have a PCR on the Monday but thought she might as well being with my daughter and driving her.

Still absolutely zero symptoms, two subsequent PCR tests negative, same for laterals, including the rest of the household.

She's not particularly bothered about self-isolating at home with Xmas next week, but it would have been a different matter if we also had to isolate from each other in the house.

Maybe she’d had it for a while, been asymptomatic, and the day she tested positive just happened to be the last day it registered via a PCR?

or it could just be a fucked up test.

on the bright side, she’ll be able to travel in the next 180 days without having to pay for a PCR test.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Bearing in mind that literally no one said that.

Maybe you don’t realise how you come across too then.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Whole family caught covid back in July. Went with the wife on holiday in October and her two day PCR test came back positive despite no symptoms. She then took two further tests both negative but track and trace kept on calling and insisting she isolate for 10 days. They even called at 7.45 in the morning and wanted me to wake her up! Apparently she shouldn't have taken a PCR test originally as had Covid less than 90 days previously and supposedly this can still show in a PCR test.

So you paid for a two-day PCR test after coming back from holiday and she didn't even need to have one?

Get the money back from her mate!

 

[twosips]

Maybe you don’t realise how you come across too then.

Probably. As I've just said though, no problem whatsoever with caution, more a problem with those who are telling those that are optimistic that they are wrong and not understanding why some people need a bit of hope. That's not needed.

 

[blueinsa]

Really? Should try sitting next to Mrs Damo after a curry

Good to see you posting mate, long time no speak.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Maybe she’d had it for a while, been asymptomatic, and the day she tested positive just happened to be the last day it registered via a PCR?

or it could just be a fucked up test.

on the bright side, she’ll be able to travel in the next 180 days without having to pay for a PCR test.

Not sure she will have had it in the ten days prior, as she has to lateral flow most days for work.

As you suggest, we think it was just a fucked up test which caused plenty of anxiety at the start of this week and another Xmas Day on the chopping block.

 

[M18CTID]

Probably. As I've just said though, no problem whatsoever with caution, more a problem with those who are telling those that are optimistic that they are wrong and not understanding why some people need a bit of hope. That's not needed.

Not just wrong, but we're weird as well!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Probably. As I've just said though, no problem whatsoever with caution, more a problem with those who are telling those that are optimistic that they are wrong and not understanding why some people need a bit of hope. That's not needed.

It’s not just you, Ste. It’s been noticeable for weeks that more and more people are reaching out for some hope/good news.

It’s totally natural and human to do so.

On the flip side, if people are objective or cautious, they are jumped on by these “hopers”.

We‘re all desperate to hear that Omicron is mild and paves the way out of this nightmare.

The only difference is that at the moment you need to cling onto the hope of the two studies you posted, whereas Damo is holding his horses before clinging onto the hope.

Different people react differently and need different things.

Neither is wrong and arguing with people isn’t going to help you, Damo, me or anyone.

Let’s get to the end of Jan and see where we are. Have as normal a Christmas as you safely can do.

We might be 6 weeks away from this being an issue again.

 

[Ballymagash Blue]

 

[hgblue]

Probably. As I've just said though, no problem whatsoever with caution, more a problem with those who are telling those that are optimistic that they are wrong and not understanding why some people need a bit of hope. That's not needed.

Misery loves company ;)

 

[Ballymagash Blue]

 

[Gogootz]

Bearing in mind that literally no one said that.

Exaggerating for comic effect, allow it.