Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Gabriel said:
Reading the last clause of her penultimate sentence, she's evidently peeved that not all hospital staff have taken up the booster shot as well.
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Yes. My cousin works in a London hospital. I don't speak to her very often but I do know that that really upsets her because she ends up working very long hours and has young children.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Each to there own, but 20 years of my career developing mathematical models for the ONS and the insurance industry tells me they are absolute rubbish.
With 4 waves of evidence (Original, Spanish, Alpha & Delta at hand) they should have refined their models sufficiently such that previous waves hit the median outcome of the models.
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You have no qualifications in Virology or Epidemiology, stop pretending you are an expert in this. You are a data compiler of others work.
 
Marvin said:
If you're a vaccine sceptic then read these comments from Nicky Barlow who is a sister in a hospital in SE London. This is their experience.
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Marvin, that might make a few sceptics sit up and take notice but the vast majority of rabid anti-vaxxers are beyond help, due to them being so far down their rabbit holes that no amount of evidence will make them wake up and smell the coffee, short of them catching it so bad themselves that it leaves them in ICU gasping for air.
 
blueinsa said:
The fucking state of our NHS right now, a 2 car shunt with whiplash would overwhelm it if you listened to same narratives that are belted out over and over.

Covid is not overwhelming the NHS and the stats back that up. It needs money, better management and capacity for sure but it is not for us Plebs to be locked away each winter in some sad attempt at protecting it.

We pay for it, politicians had better fucking wake up and sort it out!
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All very true but that sadly, won't be for a fee years I fear.

Today, the NHS is at an all time low, so it does need protection until such time the infrastructure can meet the demand of the Nation.

That means sadly, that the Government will need to do unpopular things for now to keep it ticking over.

Fingers crossed there exists a long term strategy to recover it, and I hope young students are not deterred from going into the medical profession having seen current conditions.
 
M18CTID said:
Fucking hell - just 2 days after testing positive on a LFT, I’ve tested negative this morning!

Going to keep isolating though as I suppose it could be a false negative, or maybe I’ve had it longer than I first thought and what I assumed were booster side effects middle of last week before the runny nose and sneezing started at the end of the week could’ve been the onset of Omicron instead. Will do another LFT in 2 days time, and one on Xmas Day. Those will be days 6 and 7 at least since the onset of symptoms and if both neg I’ll be good to go under the new rules.
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Have you done a PCR?
 
Marvin said:
Yes. My cousin works in a London hospital. I don't speak to her very often but I do know that that really upsets her because she ends up working very long hours and has young children.
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It’s a strange one. Society went through the process of awaiting vaccines, and it became the norm to talk freely about vaccination as if everyone would naturally choose to be vaccinated. Society has now moved to that point where everyone knows that there is a sizeable minority who have rejected that opportunity, but we don’t know exactly whom because propriety prevents us asking. In hospitals, however, staff are so used to asking for medical histories that such niceties don’t apply, so everyone will know. Must make it incredibly frustrating and awkward.
 
blueinsa said:
The fucking state of our NHS right now, a 2 car shunt with whiplash would overwhelm it if you listened to same narratives that are belted out over and over.

Covid is not overwhelming the NHS and the stats back that up. It needs money, better management and capacity for sure but it is not for us Plebs to be locked away each winter in some sad attempt at protecting it.

We pay for it, politicians had better fucking wake up and sort it out!
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They’ll just sell it off so they don’t have to, it’s coming…..
 
M18CTID said:
Marvin, that might make a few sceptics sit up and take notice but the vast majority of rabid anti-vaxxers are beyond help, due to them being so far down their rabbit holes that no amount of evidence will make them wake up and smell the coffee, short of them catching it so bad themselves that it leaves them in ICU gasping for air.
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We're all in rabbit-holes and copying arguments that most of us don't understand. It's an act of faith.

Anti-government is a good instinct imo but not anti-science. If a doctor who spent a decade studying, and most of their subsuequent professional life gives me medical advice I will accept it. If a civil engineer tells me that building is unsafe I will accept it. If the Daily Mail tells me to vote for X, I will ignore them.

We are being fed propaganda all the time but if ultimately it comes from scientists then I'll accept it even if it coincides with government as it does in this case.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Put your handbag down mate he’s using his expertise to analyse data and offer an opinion. More than what the rest of us offer this thread.
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Other statisticians will be compiling data on public transport usage in the under 40s or exhaust durability in diesel cars, it doesn't make them train drivers or mechanics. As long as he keeps saying the experts are wrong i will pull him up on it.
 
lancs blue said:
You seriously believe that experts never make errors??
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Not at all but are you seriously saying that we should discount all scientists and experts because errors may be made now and again? or that we should believe what some unqualified bloke on a football forum says instead? I seriously don't understand your question.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
What a load of sh1te. Are you on the WUM? Didn't mention death did I? Most people who catch it nowadays don't die. So you think it OK that these people should overwhelm our hospitals and block beds that could be used for other serious non Covid cases? T1t
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If the NHS can't handle some people being poorly then the problem is with it, not the people.

If it can't do what it's designed to do then that's its own failing.
 
blueinsa said:
Political suicide for any party to even think about.
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Even more so when you’ve just asked society to sacrifice two years of living and, arguably, sacrificed thousands of lives to save it.

However, while there was a political reluctance before to even discuss changing it, I think now everyone appreciates that is a discussion to be had.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Other statisticians will be compiling data on public transport usage in the under 40s or exhaust durability in diesel cars, it doesn't make them train drivers or mechanics. As long as he keeps saying the experts are wrong i will pull him up on it.
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The fucking data is telling them they are wrong.

Carry on in your attempt at shutting the poster down though because you don’t like his message.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Is that where we are now? turning on the NHS during an unprecedented modern pandemic because you don't want to hear or face up to certain things? It's like them yanks who go on and on about the constitution but would have seen it burn to keep Trump in power.
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More bullshit.

Posters are turning on Politicians, not the NHS.

It’s only you reading it that way so you can bring Trump into the conversation?

Heaven knows why you would want to do that? (I do know btw, it’s pathetic)
 
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