It's Quiet 16 - Txiki grinders

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Placed a 20 bet on vlahovic at 12-1, so holiday in it for me if this means what I think it means.
 
Vlahovic Time?
Wind Of Change -> Change of Focus to Vlahovic
Italian Plastic -> He plays for Fiorentina (Italian Club)

Could Also be referring to change of power from Madrid to City and Italian Plastic could be referring to Raiola but I doubt our board will get in a bidding war.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I don’t think we let Torres go without Vlahovic coming in.

No idea what that means for Haaland.
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My guess is city probably know Haaland wants to be a galactico with all that implies, and while maybe they could get him. They probably dont want to get taken for a ride again like with Kane. Vlahovic has gone up a level even this season, Fiorentina in CL contention because of him. Contract situation is favourable, he's 21. just feels a lot more like a traditional City deal than Haaland.
 
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Paulmcfc2703 said:
Baffles me how anybody who watches us can disregard the importance of scoring penalties.

Nothing to do with the grass being greener. What games have Torres' goals made a huge impact on the result other than the Newcastle game last season?
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I dont disregard the importance of scoring penalties. Im saying you won't get 10 penalties in the league every season, or as in our case, any season. If Fiorentina would have gotten 1 penalty this year, and not 10 his total goals would be a third less. Its a good ability to have, but I would rather have a striker that scores 33 goals in a calendar year without penalties, than one who scores 23 + 10 penalties. But that's just me.
I cant even remember who made a huge impact or not 3-4 games ago mate. I do have a memory of him having a good second half of the season, and some though he should be starting in the final (not me). But if we go by what players have done in another shirt than Citys (like Vlahovic), Torres scored a hat-trick against Germany, and you could argue he has made a significant impact on international level.

I think the main differences between us is that I still think Torres can be a great player, and you dont. I think that if he goes to Serie A/La Liga, he would score around 20 goals, maybe more if also takes pens. But fair enough, no one of us knows so its pointless to argue about :)
I also watch a lot of Fiorentina games since my mother comes from there. I think Vlahovic has been great, but he has perhaps scored a few more than his performances deserve, in my opinion of course. Its a huge step up in quality to come to City and score goals regulary. I do think his playing style is more of what we are missing compared to Torres, and he could be an instant hit here. But it would also not surprise if he would struggle with the expectations and be more of a 15 goals a season kind of guy here like many other players that have moved to the Prem has ended up like before him. In my opinion, he is not even close to someone like Håland in quality, and much more closer to someone like Torres. Again, I think he currently is a better striker than Torres.

If we sign him, I will of course hope he becomes one of the best strikers in the world, and he very well could be. I just have a feeling he could flop here and be on his way out to Inter on loan with an obligation to buy for €30M in 3 years. When you after half a season have a non-penalty xG of 5.7, and still managed to score 16 goals, it tells me that you are either getting a bit lucky with the amount of goals you score from the number of chances you had, or that you are the most clinical striker of all time. Time will tell :)
 
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