Russian invasion of Ukraine

feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
We can’t fire them though, the President of the US gets that call.
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He is the keeper of the keys :)



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mosssideblue said:
No he doesn't
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Do you think the U.K. would act independently to the US on releasing nuclear weapons? Weapons which are leased from and maintained by the US as well? If this situation in Ukraine hypothetically escalated who would be making the final call on pulling the trigger on behalf of NATO, Biden or Johnson?
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Do you think the U.K. would act independently to the US on releasing nuclear weapons? Weapons which are leased from and maintained by the US as well? If this situation in Ukraine hypothetically escalated who would be making the final call on pulling the trigger on behalf of NATO, Biden or Johnson?
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That’s a different question to who makes the order to fire our nukes.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Do you think the U.K. would act independently to the US on releasing nuclear weapons? Weapons which are leased from and maintained by the US as well? If this situation in Ukraine hypothetically escalated who would be making the final call on pulling the trigger on behalf of NATO, Biden or Johnson?
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The man who has total control of the UK nuclear weapon capability is the PM.

It is called an independent nuclear deterrent for a reason.

UK decide targets and whether to use or not, nothing to do with Biden.
 
mosssideblue said:
The man who has total control of the UK nuclear weapon capability is the PM.

It is called an independent nuclear deterrent for a reason.

UK decide targets and whether to use or not, nothing to do with Biden.
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Can you think of any scenario where the U.K. would act independently to the United States on releasing nuclear weapons? Only one I can think of is if started lobbing them at Washington and New York.
 
NPBlue said:
We won't be sending troops into Ukraine because they aren't members of Nato. Yes, there are a few British troops out there helping them learn how to shoot anti tank missiles, but other than that?

I don't know what 'considerable presence' in the Baltic nations means in the overall scheme of of things. Four aircraft and a few hundred soldiers like we have in the Falkland Islands?

I don't think anyone can understand what Putin is about at the moment, and I don't think it will kick off, but let's remember it wasn't too long ago we sailed a Destroyer into the Black Sea that antagonised the Russians then sent an aircraft carrier battle fleet over to China to antagonise them as well.

What is the point of that, given the size of our country, and our place in the world?
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There is a lot of point because they do it too. The Russians constantly send bomber aircraft very close to our airspace and their carriers have passed through the Channel many times.

You could argue well it's international waters/airspace and it's fine but we can argue the same. It's not about antagonising, it's about deterrence and letting them know you're there.

The reason for putting carrier groups into the South China Sea is because China is taking land in the region and making noise about invading Taiwan. There is currently no deterrent to that except the west.

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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Can you think of any scenario where the U.K. would act independently to the United States on releasing nuclear weapons? Only one I can think of is if started lobbing them at Washington and New York.
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Personally think they will never be used, but to answer your question (imo of course).

They are a deterrent first and foremost, not something we would use unless the Government felt increasing tensions between a foreign Government with nuclear capabilities and the UK was escalating to the point intelligence was convinced we were about to be attacked with nucs.
 
mosssideblue said:
Personally think they will never be used, but to answer your question (imo of course).

They are a deterrent first and foremost, not something we would use unless the Government felt increasing tensions between a foreign Government with nuclear capabilities and the UK was escalating to the point intelligence was convinced we were about to be attacked with nucs.
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Weapons of mass destruction......pesky things
 
inbetween said:
There is a lot of point because they do it too. The Russians constantly send bomber aircraft very close to our airspace and their carriers have passed through the Channel many times.

You could argue well it's international waters/airspace and it's fine but we can argue the same. It's not about antagonising, it's about deterrence and letting them know you're there.

The reason for putting carrier groups into the South China Sea is because China is taking land in the region and making noise about invading Taiwan. There is currently no deterrent to that except the west.

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Is that the same Admiral Kuznetzov that is out of service and not expected to return to service untll 2023? It's the only carrier they have.

Look at the shit belching out of it's funnel.

It's sister wasn't completed, the hull was sold by Ukraine to China!
 
If they do go in. Whilst the world’s focus will be full on it. Any chance of a cheeky Taiwan bid by the Chinese.
 
inbetween said:
There is a lot of point because they do it too. The Russians constantly send bomber aircraft very close to our airspace and their carriers have passed through the Channel many times.

You could argue well it's international waters/airspace and it's fine but we can argue the same. It's not about antagonising, it's about deterrence and letting them know you're there.

The reason for putting carrier groups into the South China Sea is because China is taking land in the region and making noise about invading Taiwan. There is currently no deterrent to that except the west.

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at the very least that needs some injector cleaner lobbing in the diesel tank
 
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