Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Akai]

Anyone else picking up vibes from Washington that, even if Russia attacked a NATO partner, the US wouldn't want to get involved in a war with Russia?

If no one will pay for their services, then they will not be involved. Unless if its against China, that's the real threat to them.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

But would they defend NATO members against Russia, with their nuclear arsenal ?
I'm not so certain they would

Yes, of course they would.

Not to do so would end NATO against the most likely enemy.

The nuclear stuff is overblown, I think, unless the entire nation of Russia was threatened with destruction.

 

[Akai]

In what way are NATO and the West causing trouble exactly?

 

[bluemoon32]

If no one will pay for their services, then they will not be involved. Unless if its against China, that's the real threat to them.

The Chinese will be our new overlords one day, better start learning Mandarin

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Seeing Ukraine’s president really does show you there are still great leaders out there. I just hope the guy can survive as he’s no doubt target number one for the Russians to try and destroy morale.

He was a TV comedian when he got elected. Now he is a statesman and a very brave one at that. When the gutless coward and gangster Putin eventually has him tracked down and no doubt has him killed that will be real low point in world history.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

In what way are NATO and the West causing trouble exactly?

Don'tr really rate a lot of the shit that Brand comes out with, but it's worth having a look at the view outside the main narrative.

 

[bluesteel]

Did you really just compare Tony Blair to Putin?

Get to absolute fuck, you crank.

I just stated a fact, it’s you that made the comparison.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I agree, but was just the tone of the lady reporting Biden's stance this morning left me thinking otherwise

Haven't seen it, but possibly phrased in response to a specific question?

I assume it was Psaki the press secretary

 

[Coatigan]

It really isn’t, the company I work for isn’t owned by Dominic Raab.

Admittedly if it was, I’d have handed my notice in a long time ago though!

Neither is the club Zinch plays for.

 

[SWP's back]

Feel genuinely sorry for the people of Ukraine. But as outsiders, the way I see it it’s literally NATO and the West causing trouble on one side vs an egotistical and expansionist Russia on the other side.

As always we are just pawns in geo politics and the west also has blood on their hands.

You’re also the guy that wants them to immediately surrender also yeah? I’ll repeat I’m glad I’m not stuck in a trench with you. You sound like a twat and one that’s very wrong at that.

 

[bluemoon32]

Haven't seen it, but possibly phrased in response to a specific question?

I assume it was Psaki the press secretary

And just to lower the tone a bit, yes, even though she's a ginge, i most definitely would

 

[give it to gordon]

The Chinese will be our new overlords one day, better start learning Mandarin

I am crap at learning to play musical instruments.

 

[robbieh]

I think we are especially bothered by this because it's on the doorstep of Europe and frankly Ukrainians look like us. If they were a bit further away and brown or yellow we'd probably just shake our heads, shrug our shoulders and think it's not good but ultimately get on with our lives. We take exactly the same stance as India/UAE are here on various conflicts and atrocities around the world every day.

I'm afraid that type of nuance is frowned upon on here but well said for saying it.

 

[bluemoon32]

I am crap at learning to play musical instruments.

Fcuk you, not supposed to laugh in this thread :)

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Don'tr really rate a lot of the shit that Brand comes out with, but it's worth having a look at the view outside the main narrative.

He should stick to trying to be funny as he has a lot to do on that front before he starts trying to pontificate on things way above his intellect and pay grade.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Don'tr really rate a lot of the shit that Brand comes out with, but it's worth having a look at the view outside the main narrative.

That seems to ignore thatUkraine doesn't want to be a province of Russia.

It seems to pretty much wash hands and abandon them. Ghastly take on it with no alternative that would be a resolution.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I think we are especially bothered by this because it's on the doorstep of Europe and frankly Ukrainians look like us. If they were a bit further away and brown or yellow we'd probably just shake our heads, shrug our shoulders and think it's not good but ultimately get on with our lives. We take exactly the same stance as India/UAE are here on various conflicts and atrocities around the world every day.

How downright insulting offensive and wrong.
The only bit you got right is that it's on the doorstep of Europe.

 

[Atypical]

Did you hear the comments of the UAE representative? She was pretty clear that the Russian action was wrong and that the territorial integrity of member states had to be respected.

They have an excellent relationship with Russia and sometimes a critical friend having a quiet word can be more effective than someone hostile screaming in your face. I'd be more interested in what they're saying to Putin privately than meaningless gestures in the useless UN talking shop.

Hi, I did, I doubt that statement will be picked up by the media that focus on City. I was a bit weary last night, in the grand scheme of things City do not matter.

 

[west didsblue]

Don'tr really rate a lot of the shit that Brand comes out with, but it's worth having a look at the view outside the main narrative.

Just when I thought you were a big enough twat by suggesting that Ukraine should just surrender you’ve compounded it by posting Russell fucking Brand.
Crank.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I think we are especially bothered by this because it's on the doorstep of Europe and frankly Ukrainians look like us. If they were a bit further away and brown or yellow we'd probably just shake our heads, shrug our shoulders and think it's not good but ultimately get on with our lives. We take exactly the same stance as India/UAE are here on various conflicts and atrocities around the world every day.

I see your point, but two important facts firstly it is in Europe and it was an unprovoked invasion by a world nuclear power.