Russian invasion of Ukraine

SWP's back said:
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I vividly remember, as a member of HM forces (ostensibly a modern military machine) driving round Basra in a Land Rover Discovery that had been bought in Kuwait as a quick and dirty way of increasing the troop carrying capacity of the army. Wasn't very resistant to IEDs as I recall.
 
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SWP's back said:
Ok buddy, a few things here:

1) You’re way off topic
2) You’re trying to argue points I’ve never made (“Ok for the Brits to do it”)
3) India didn’t exist at that time so most certainly didn’t have the second largest economy.
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The journey of India’s GDP from 1000 A.D. to 2020

Till about 300 years ago, India accounted for more than a quarter of the world’s GDP. This share began falling following the advent of British power over the subcontinent. In the past few years, though, India’s economy has seen a revival and will continue to do so, a report called “India: The...
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Have a look at this. India accounted for almost 25% of World's GDP before British rule.
 
roy.or.r said:
Just because others did it doesn't mean it was okay for the Brits to do it. Also, the Things the British did was more severe and Indians still feel the effects to this day with widespread poverty. India was the second biggest economy in the world before English came in.
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I struggle to believe that.

This is a common misconception spread in Indian Nationalist circles.

Where would India be without modern medicine, technology, transport, the industrial revolution? This was all exported to India in the early 19th century.

The Brits were severe but no more than other empires and less than several.
 
metalblue said:
Who gives a fuck Sam? It was donkey years ago. God knows why anyone is trying to shoehorn India into this thread, go start your own thread about the British empire and India if you’re that animated by it. This is about a war now not something that happened 150 years ago that @roy.or.r wasn’t alive for unless he/she is the second fucking coming and if he/she is I’d suggest they fix a plague on Putin rather than worry about old time shit. Some fucking people
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*respectfully some fucking people.
 
Octavian said:
I struggle to believe that.

This is a common misconception spread in Indian Nationalist circles.

Where would India be without modern medicine, technology, transport, the industrial revolution? This was all exported to India in the early 19th century.

The Brits were severe but no more than other empires and less than several.
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So what you are saying is Indians would have gone extinct if Brits never arrived? Got it.
 
BobKowalski said:
That, and maybe a land bridge to Crimea.

But who in the West will do business with Putin’s Russia if there is a settlement and they keep Ukrainian territory? Where does Putin’s Russia go from here, or indeed a post Putin Russia that has troops on Ukraine territory?

Russians have grown to like their iPhones, Apple Pay, Netflix and football. They lose that for what? Killing Ukrainians and some territory and all for reasons no one fully understands?

The end game of all this is a head scratcher, because no matter what Russia ‘gains’ it’s going to lose a hell of a lot more.
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That's what I would have thought Bob. Head scratcher indeed.
 
SkyBlueCanuck said:
My unpopular opinion:

-Russia has withheld the strongest of its military might on the chance that NATO/US/EU/Somebody joins in on Ukraine's side and needs to be dealt with
-Russia has not invaded full scale regardless of what the press keeps telling me
-Nobody is serious about dealing with Putin/Russia so long as they keep buying Russian fuel
-As fuel prices soar, Putin/Russia literally grow richer as a result of this incursion
-Sanctions will do SFA other than strengthen Sino-Russian cooperation
-A serious attempt to militarily defend Ukraine by any other state would necessarily involve defence/counterattacks/attacks on the Russian military and therefore: is an invitation for Russia to attack the country who attacks their forces.
-fucking nobody is going to do that
-therefore: negotiated surrender and acceding to Russian terms is the only outcome.

I don't like it. But I can't see it another way. Saving the Ukrainian people's lives is my most favored outcome at this point and I can't see this go any "better" way for them.
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Putin in his documentary “Russia. New History” said “but in our advanced developments we are definitely the leaders and number 1 in the scale and upgrades of its traditional weapons” yet are still getting wiped out by javelins and stingers and the such. Don’t buy into his hype mate, he’s a fluffier
 
roy.or.r said:
qz.com

The journey of India’s GDP from 1000 A.D. to 2020

Till about 300 years ago, India accounted for more than a quarter of the world’s GDP. This share began falling following the advent of British power over the subcontinent. In the past few years, though, India’s economy has seen a revival and will continue to do so, a report called “India: The...
qz.com qz.com

Have a look at this. India accounted for almost 25% of World's GDP before British rule.
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India. Didn’t. Exist. (Just like the thread about it) Jeez.
 
Just bought my daughter an Easter Egg as we might not be here come April.
 
Gremlin said:
I vividly remember, as member of HM forces (ostensibly a modern military machine) driving round Basra in a Land Rover Discovery that had been bought in Kuwait as a quick and dirty way of increasing the troop carrying capacity of the army. Wasn't very resistant to IEDs as I recall.
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You’ve never watched top gear then mate ;)
 
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