Russian invasion of Ukraine

[carlosthejackal]

Quick heads up of places accepting donations and what they need , other places in Greater Manchester also accepting donations for shipment, details on the M EN website. I know it’s not much but as fellow human beings it’s the least we can do .

 

[BlueAnorak]

Bad news for the Russian tanks

Not just anti-tank weaponry. Shells etc too

They are on the Polish border distributing them across the Ukraine is the issue. Food etc also.
Logistics across the Ukraine with Russian air-superiority is the issue.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Not too sure on the plane situation other than they need them.

They definitely have control of drones that could obliterate that convoy though.

Hope so pal

 

[BlueHammer85]

former first minister of foreign affairs - who served under Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s - is calling on all Russian diplomats to resign in protest at the invasion of Ukraine.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Cool, what do we do with the east of the Urals then once we have europeanised the west side, rintergrate it into mongoloa and china?

You introduce them to democracy and western lifestyles, while allowing them to maintain their quiet, rural lifestyles, if they prefer.

You make it sound like I’m trying to take something away from them, not give them freedom of choice?!

 

[DrBlueBob]

I’ve been teary eyed watching the BBC news, watching a Polish family who’ve driven to the border and taken Ukrainian families home with her to live in her home. It’s fucking heartbreaking. I haven’t even looked at the team news yet, it just seems so trivial by comparison

You should, it will distract you for a bit working out what formation we are playing tonight. Oleks starts btw.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Strangely and for no apparant reason, whenever anything like that comes on, the wife starts chopping onions. I know, it's weird, but that's what happens in our house.

What's happened, I've been dusting?

 

[Don Karleone]

Holy shit

 

[paulchapo]

former first minister of foreign affairs - who served under Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s - is calling on all Russian diplomats to resign in protest at the invasion of Ukraine.

At last somebody has spoken up. Now do something positive and drag that lunatic Putin off to a prison cell by force, call off this heinous invasion and act like a civilised country.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

26 years in the sector

Fair plays, nice to see some expert first hand experience on the forum.

 

[domalino]

Looks like the EU committed to funding the purchase but NATO has put the breaks on Bulgaria and Slovakia cite not having the availability and Poland say following call with NATO that they won’t be supplying as that would be a direct interference in the conflict which NATO is not a party to.

Basically looks like the EU got ahead of itself here which would be embarrassing ordinarily but is tragic in these circumstances.

I don’t see how NATO members supplying planes is any different from supplying weapons in the interference context. Can only think the thinking is if this becomes a wider conflict we need everything we’ve got and that it won’t turn the tide of what is happening on the ground (bit like the RAF not supplying more to France in WW2 when requested which proved to be the correct decision) - although surely stopping Putin in Ukraine is the best way of preventing that??

They know that 70 mixed role fighters would very publicly and humiliatingly destroy the Russian convoy and allow Ukraine to fight for air supremacy long term and Putin might get upset.

Let’s be clear about what that decision means - it means Kiev being surrounded, all humanitarian aid being blocked, all military aid being blocked and the Artillery levelling Kiev until it’s rubble or they surrender, with 10s of thousands dead.

 

[paulchapo]

Holy shit

That looked nuclear!

 

[nw42]

That looked nuclear!

Thought same but I don't know enough.

 

[paulchapo]

Thought same but I don't know enough.

Nor me but the way it exploded did.

 

[MCFC1993]

Holy shit

Looks like one of those thermobaric bombs.

I do wonder where the line is going to be drawn before somebody says enough is enough.

 

[BringBackSwales]

You should, it will distract you for a bit working out what formation we are playing tonight. Oleks starts btw.

Just seen it thanks mate

 

[Coatigan]

Trump and the Republicans admire Putin because of his nationalism and the weird association with him and strength. People like Nigel Farage are the same, they long for a Putin type authoritarian governmental system which stamps over anything that was put in place to stop the implementation of rather questionable policies.

What this war represents for these kind of people is a rejection of the kind of thing that they stand for which is aggressive nationalism. They can't have this because we are a democracy and have laws to stop it so they admire people that overrule it and that's why they can't help but find themselves sympathising with Putin.

Ah I see now. It is This ****'s shite rather than that Putin ****'s that a few on here are parroting. It was confusing for a while but makes sense now.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Holy shit

Good grief. I hope to fuck it's not what they're saying it could be.

 

[Don Karleone]

That looked nuclear!

Thermobaric apparently

 

[Bazzmand Show]

That looked nuclear!

It'll be Thermobaric.

Russia have a lot of devastating weapons that they have not used yet, who's only real purpose if utter destruction.