Russian invasion of Ukraine

[dronefromsector7G]

Haaha

 

[Octavian]

I see a lot of posts mentioning racism here. What's going on? Did I miss something?

publication has said the coverage of the Ukraine crisis shows white supremacy because it’s in the news more than Syria and Palestine.

It’s of course nonsense.

 

[unexpected item]

This tune's a funky toe-tapper, they should put it on the big screens at the derby on Sunday.

 

[journolud]

Video on that NEXTA new channel on Twitter. Shows a looter cling filmed to a lamp post, arse out and being whipped with a belt - for looting.

Not sure how I feel about that.

There are people who would pay for that, erm service.

 

[metalblue]

i disagree.

Go on….

 

[laserblue]

I see that RT Propaganda has been removed from our TV screens. I checked in occasionally for a few minutes at a time to listen the shameless bullshit and lies being spewed by British and American traitors on behalf of Putin.

 

[The perfect fumble]

publication has said the coverage of the Ukraine crisis shows white supremacy because it’s in the news more than Syria and Palestine.

It’s of course nonsense.

Get real....

 

[Tb1981]

Owen Jones's article is a mess. No proper argument at all.

Thatcher check
Blair check
Farage check
Boris check

he really is a broken record

 

[Sir peace frog]

Ukraine claims it has foiled an assassination attempt against the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Officials said a unit of Chechen special forces - known as Kadyrovites - were involved in the scheme and had been "eliminated".

Ukrainian security chief Oleksiy Danilo said: "We are well aware of the special operation that was to take place directly by the Kadyrovites to eliminate our president."

Mr Danilo said Ukraine had been tipped off about the plot by members of Russia's Federal Security Service

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

This is exactly what I've been saying about having people inside the Russian government. Its exactly why this won't escalate into WW3. Too much money involved for anything like that to happen. My money is on old Vlad being turned in sooner rather than later, or his exact location found out and Russian Special Forces grab the ****.

Top many high ranking Russians with family across the world for anything world ending to happen.

You reckon old Vlad will tip off his mate Roman before he nukes London then?
We often see Roman's mug on TV at Chelsea games. So it might give the game away if he's absent at the weekend?

 

[Coatigan]

Of course. It's not in our interest to help ukraine.nobody wants WW3 so he can have it.

We are both sarcastically pointing at the extreme ends of that tightrope.

The truth is somehere in the middle between the actual middle and what you have just said.

 

[west didsblue]

Is wanking an Olympic sport? Asking for a mate.

Does your mate like Swiss cheese by any chance?

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Yeah, look at the west, afraid of WW3 and a nuclear exchange. How pathetic of countries not to rush to start one.

Wouldn't help Ukraine any, btw.

It’s staggering how many people seem to be oblivious or advocating risking that if we go NATO v Russia then we more than likely end up going nuclear and it’s game over for most of us, including the Ukrainians.

It’s shit for Ukraine, but in my opinion risking wiping out the human race and most animals that rely on vegetation isn’t a price worth risking to attempt to put it right. People are advocating risking the lives of ~8 Billion people to save Ukraine. Ukraine will fight and make life / occupation hell for Russia, and they will inevitably withdraw. We can support Ukraine in this effort.

Right. I’m going to carry on watching ‘the day after’. The start of that (radio/tv commentary on the Russia / NATO escalations) are worryingly similar.

 

[Keith Moncrieff]

School children being arrested for anti war protests.
Their crime laying flowers outside the Ukraine Embassy

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

It’s staggering how many people seem to be oblivious or advocating risking that if we go NATO v Russia then we more than likely end up going nuclear and it’s game over for most of us, including the Ukrainians.

It’s shit for Ukraine, but in my opinion risking wiping out the human race and most animals that rely on vegetation isn’t a price worth risking to attempt to put it right. People are advocating risking the lives of ~8 Billion people to save Ukraine. Ukraine will fight and make life / occupation hell for Russia, and they will inevitably withdraw. We can support Ukraine in this effort.

Right. I’m going to carry on watching ‘the day after’. The start of that (radio/tv commentary on the Russia / NATO escalations) are worryingly similar.

Of course this is right but what worries me is that Putin could just decide to go this route anyway regardless of NATO involvement. It’s a race among his optionality, his lifespan and eventual inevitable internal Russian discontent/anger/fear which could shorten or eliminate either. Hence sanctions and supporting Ukraine from outside are the only realistic options the West has until he pushes the button. It’s absolute shit but it’s all we have.

 

[andyhinch]

Not the time or place for comments like that

Well said, at times like this we need pictures.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Of course this is right but what worries me is that Putin could just decide to go this route anyway regardless of NATO involvement. It’s a race among his optionality, his lifespan and eventual inevitable internal Russian discontent/anger/fear which could shorten or eliminate either. Hence sanctions and supporting Ukraine from outside are the only realistic options the West has.

Putin is the dangerous wildcard for sure, but no point making it easier for him to justify.

 

[Octavian]

Get real....

You get real.

War in the Middle East is old news, it happens all the time and gets plenty of coverage, quite rightly.

A full scale war in a European Democracy doesn’t often happen and has far more direct implications to the West.

You could get that compilation from the Middle East and see how they report on their more local conflicts.

It’s part of this self hating white guilt nonsense.

 

[Blue Llama]

Well said, at times like this we need pictures.

Try this for a picture

Disasters Emergency Committee

Conflict in the Middle East has devastated lives. The ceasefire agreement in Gaza brings hope and relief. DEC charities are now preparing to scale up their work but urgently need more funds. Your support can save lives. Donate now.

www.dec.org.uk

And get your hand in your pocket

 

[eastmanc]

It’s staggering how many people seem to be oblivious or advocating risking that if we go NATO v Russia then we more than likely end up going nuclear and it’s game over for most of us, including the Ukrainians.

It’s shit for Ukraine, but in my opinion risking wiping out the human race and most animals that rely on vegetation isn’t a price worth risking to attempt to put it right. People are advocating risking the lives of ~8 Billion people to save Ukraine. Ukraine will fight and make life / occupation hell for Russia, and they will inevitably withdraw. We can support Ukraine in this effort.

Right. I’m going to carry on watching ‘the day after’. The start of that (radio/tv commentary on the Russia / NATO escalations) are worryingly similar.

It is mad that people do not realise what putting boots on the ground or a no fly zone would mean to the human race.