Chelsea Thread - 2021/22

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He is clearly an associate of Putin and should be sanctioned - these manoeuvres at Chelsea are cynical attempts to avoid having the club ceased…. Why hasn’t Abramovich been sanctioned ? His initials are MG and he sits in the cabinet.
Don't understand that if all these oligarchs are taking care of Putin's money and I have zero doubt they are, in this situation, IE WAR , why are they not arrested and all assets taken away?

This as said is a war situation, rights have to go out of the window, just like they have done to the people of the Ukraine.

The only way to stop Putin is to have the people of Russia overthrow him, and the only way to do that is to force the oligarchs against him.
 
The debts will come from past losses so they will already have been accounted for they are not football debt to other clubs they are a debt to him
My reading of the 1.5b is it’s on the books as a soft loan with zero interest being paid back. It’s essentially non football generated income but because it was provided before FFP nothing can be done about it. It wouldn’t be allowed now.
 
Interesting he said "War victims". The word "War" has been effectively banned by Putin & his cronies. Could cracks in support by the oligarchs be starting to appear ?
Let's hope so, humans are greedy by nature and the only way to stop dictators is to cut off their money supply/assets, hence why their property should be seized immediatly and the people holding it should be arrested and imprisoned, human rights go out of the window in a war.

Fight dirty like they do, it's the only way to get them to listen and show respect.

We as a country have allowed Russians to launder money in our country for well over a decade, simply a national embarrassment, we have allowed the Russian's and Putin to fund this war.
 
We have our milk delivered to the doorstep by a Rag milkman, but I can honestly say he's the only one I've come across who seems to know which day of the week it is - Friday three pints and half a dozen eggs, Monday one pint, Wednesday two pints!
 
victims of the war include Russian Soldiers Families or am i too cynical?
I think it's highly likely he would want it to go to Russians, that is if he can get it through the banking system. If he has anything about him though it should go the the Red Cross. It's the fact that his statement actually mentions "War" rather than 'Conflict' or indeed 'Special Military Operation' that could be significant. As others have pointed out, it's possible that after the loan money has been accounted for there may be nothing left to donate.
 
My reading of the 1.5b is it’s on the books as a soft loan with zero interest being paid back. It’s essentially non football generated income but because it was provided before FFP nothing can be done about it. It wouldn’t be allowed now.
If I remember rightly, weren’t various clubs and sport scribblers trying to have us investigated for financial dealings before ffp even existed?
 
My reading of the 1.5b is it’s on the books as a soft loan with zero interest being paid back. It’s essentially non football generated income but because it was provided before FFP nothing can be done about it. It wouldn’t be allowed now.
He's been loaning on and off throughout the period I think. Don't think it all predates FFP. He injected a loan of 26m last season.
 
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Wonder what Mr putin thinks of his giving money to the enemy.
I know it's not our club but this goes beyond football and I'd like to think that his sentiments are genuine and that he's turned his back on Putin. Appreciate that that could well be wishful thinking though.

As for Chelsea, I don't think we can assume that a sale will adversely affect them on the pitch. For all we know, they could get a hugely ambitious owner who may even improve them.
 
Surely those loans made during FFP have to be repaid then? If not, anyone could circumvent FFP rules
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Found this chart from Swiss Ramble.
and this explanation (not sure how it works personally)

"He swapped the loan for equity (ie shares). If he sells then he gets whatever his share of the club is (out of whatever he sells it for). The £1bn of loans does not exist (well , it does in the form of equity)."
 
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Found this chart from Swiss Ramble.
and this explanation (not sure how it works personally)

"He swapped the loan for equity (ie shares). If he sells then he gets whatever his share of the club is (out of whatever he sells it for). The £1bn of loans does not exist (well , it does in the form of equity)."
Cheers, I don’t profess to completely understand this subject but it shows the hypocrisy of the “hateful 8” when they went after us. Even Burnley’s owners leveraged the club to complete the takeover just like the Glazer’s did at the Rags, there’s some very dodgy deals but we were the ones actively pursued, rotten to the core.
 
Cheers, I don’t profess to completely understand this subject but it shows the hypocrisy of the “hateful 8” when they went after us. Even Burnley’s owners leveraged the club to complete the takeover just like the Glazer’s did at the Rags, there’s some very dodgy deals but we were the ones actively pursued, rotten to the core.
Ahsan, Howard & Stefan from 9320 are going live on twitter spaces at 1.20pm. Assume Stefan will break this sale down.
 
FFP takes the simplistic view that if a club never spends more than the revenue streams permitted by FFP bring in a club will always be healthy financially. It took the view that clubs with existing debts had merely to be able to pay the interest on that debt without overspending to meet the demands of FFP. R A's loans to Chelsea were interest free and so there was never a danger of falling foul of the regulations. If he sells the club the only problem for the new owner and Chelsea would appear to be that R A has had to make these interest free loans to the club quite frequently to finance rebuilding to keep the club at its present level and the new owner might not be prepared to do this.

All this is strictly football finance and, I suspect, is of little interest to our government which is concerned with Russian holdings in the UK, the movement of capital and the functioning of the Russian economy to finance their war of aggression in the Ukraine. At the moment R A is not sanctioned by the UK any further as a result of the war than he was previously. The reason for this is unclear. Is it because he is a friend of our PM or is it because we are not convinced he is close to the Kremlin? In general the oligarchs profited from the 'privatisation' of Russian natural resources and assets in the aftermath of the disintegration of the soviet union. None of them woke up one morning to realise with astonishment that they had quite suddenly become billionaires. RA seems to have had a rather colourful business career but he appears to have acquired his controlling interest in Sibneft, a large oil company worth billions of dollars, in very shady circumstances, which suggests some powerful contacts. By the end of the 90s he was close to Yeltsin and in 2000 was the first to suggest Putin as Yeltsin's successor. In 1999 he was elected to the Russian Parliament and from 2000 to 2008 he was the governor of Chukotka. When he resigned in 2008 he was awarded the Order of Honour by the then president Medvedev, the very close associate of Putin.

All this is evidence of close association with the Kremlin and the question is whether his holdings outside Russia are in reality ways of of keeping wealth that the Kremlin can realise in western currencies in time of need or genuine investments by RA. Is Chelsea an example of soft influence to make it easier to realise other assets? Or is this kind of influence restricted to Abu Dhabi!!!! At present, Chelsea should be largely unaffected by such issues.
 
Maybe he has 1.5 billion worth of shares and he is saying he is not turning them into hard cash for a takeover. This reduces the amount needed to buy Chelsea
However he could be retaining a share in Chelsea via these and new owners would need to buy them off him if they wanted him out of the club at some stage

Didn't City do something similar with Taskhin, when he initially held a share percentage
 
They've just been discussing the Chelsea/Putin/Abramavic connection on the Jeremy Vine programme. A rather pro Russian journalist called Ella something and, to offer an expert analysis from a football perspective ..... Mike (Fucking) Parry!!
 
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