Keir Starmer

So what were the tweets?

Also the headline says “two Jeremy Corbyn tweets” but the article makes it clear they were tweets “related” to Corbyn.

Im genuinely staggered anyone would write this article without including the relevant tweets. How is it even a story without them?
I suppose it's a story because a local councillor has been suspended on the eve of the elections. As for a lack of meat on the bones I'd imagine that is down to the disciplinary process. From what I understand members under 'investigation ' are warned against revealing such trivialities under threat of automatic expulsion. Purely factional imo.
 
Today is it - he either get personal and goes in hard from now on or steps aside for someone who will - counter Capt Hindsight with General Lawbreaker and his sidekick Robbing - the Speaker has let Johnson get away with it he can hardly pull Starmer up now
 
Today is it - he either get personal and goes in hard from now on or steps aside for someone who will - counter Capt Hindsight with General Lawbreaker and his sidekick Robbing - the Speaker has let Johnson get away with it he can hardly pull Starmer up now

Just a shame that Parliament isn't sitting atm. He's said that Johnson should resign, which is a start. As you say though, he needs to be tougher next week.
 
Just a shame that Parliament isn't sitting atm. He's said that Johnson should resign, which is a start. As you say though, he needs to be tougher next week.

He should come out punching - hard - because Johnson is vulnerable and the charges and lies Starmer or anyone can stack up against him week in week out to reinforce the untrustworthy deceitful liar profile that is needed
 
James O'Brien challenging Keir Starmer about Brexit and why he is ignoring the consequences. He is clearly shitting being accused of wanting to rejoin but we should expect a ramping up of his highlighting the consequences to trade, agriculture, fishing, lack of growth to the economy, Northern Ireland based on what he said. About bloody time too.

I voted to leave as well you know but Starmer will 100% get my vote if he says we will rejoin under Labour because leaving has been a horrendous fucking mistake.
 
Today is it - he either get personal and goes in hard from now on or steps aside for someone who will - counter Capt Hindsight with General Lawbreaker and his sidekick Robbing - the Speaker has let Johnson get away with it he can hardly pull Starmer up now

I agree with that. He should be using 'General Sleaze' again and start calling it a 'Conservative Living Crisis'. Labour are failing miserably on sticking the country's woes on the Conservatives. He also needs to show greater passion at the box and realize that Hoyle is not a judge, so there's little point chuckling at his own quips and Johnson's predicament and then looking at Hoyle as if that's going to get him a conviction.
 
The BBC tweeted this clip of David Lammy calling for Johnson to resign....



The man is an ignoramus.

Churchill did not replace Chamberlain days before the 2nd World War, he became Prime Minister in May 1940, eight months after the war began.

Lloyd George did not replace Asquith "weeks" into the battle of the Somme, The battle started on the 21st June 1916 and ended on 28th September of that year, Lloyd George did not become Prime Minister until December 7th 1916, more than two months after the battle ended.

Anthony Eden did not lose his Job during the Suez Crisis of 1956, he resigned due to ill health in 1957.

I know these things and I'm not a professional politician, but he is!
 
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The BBC tweeted this clip of David Lammy calling for Johnson to resign....



The man is an ignoramus.

Churchill did not replace Chamberlain days before the 2nd World War, he became Prime Minister in May 1940, eight months after the war began.

Lloyd George did not replace Asquith "weeks" into the battle of the Somme, The battle started on the 21st June 1916 and ended on 28th September of that year, Lloyd George did not become Prime Minister until December 7th 1916, more than two months after the battle ended.

Anthony Eden did not lose his Job during the Suez Crisis of 1956, he resigned due to ill health in 1957.

I know these things and I'm not a professional politician, but he is!

I doubt the Tories will argue the point much though.
 
I voted to leave as well you know but Starmer will 100% get my vote if he says we will rejoin under Labour because leaving has been a horrendous fucking mistake.
I voted leave too, nothing to do with immigration or other dodgy issues, but I have been critical of the EU and its direction and politics for over 20 years. However, I accept that leaving has been a 'less than ideal situation', bearing in mind hindsight and recent developments with Russia. I think we need to reassess our position with the EU and whilst I am not a fan of Starmer I think he needs to push this now because it is an open door.
 
I voted leave too, nothing to do with immigration or other dodgy issues, but I have been critical of the EU and its direction and politics for over 20 years. However, I accept that leaving has been a 'less than ideal situation', bearing in mind hindsight and recent developments with Russia. I think we need to reassess our position with the EU and whilst I am not a fan of Starmer I think he needs to push this now because it is an open door.
I doubt we’ll ask to rejoin anytime soon, but we could potentially go back into the single market and customs union given that we don’t have the infrastructure to deal with migrants.
 
It feels like the Tory party have used all their subs, and had three sent off in the first half, but Labour are still only 3-2 up with twenty minutes to play. Can we have some more political parties please? The current choices are just rubbish.
That’s the problem with politics, you can never pick your side and have to make do with what’s closest to yours.

My take at the moment is that if you are fairly well off in life and don’t really care about anybody else then you vote Tory, regardless of what they do. If you are less well off or have a social conscience you vote for somebody who can oust them or not bother voting at all.

Personally, I vote for where I feel the country should be heading, which could mean any of the parties. I think, in my adult lifetime, it’s only this government that has got me so angry that I’ve actively engaged with others to sway/confirm them away from Johnson’s clan.
 
I voted leave too, nothing to do with immigration or other dodgy issues, but I have been critical of the EU and its direction and politics for over 20 years. However, I accept that leaving has been a 'less than ideal situation', bearing in mind hindsight and recent developments with Russia. I think we need to reassess our position with the EU and whilst I am not a fan of Starmer I think he needs to push this now because it is an open door.

There is no point - we have pissed off the EU - they won't want us back for a long time plus the offer that Starmer would be able to put to the electorate would bear no resemblance to what we had and at the moment would be unacceptable - Labour and Starmer knows that we have to let Covid fade into the rear view mirror and Ukraine resolve itself so that the disaster that is Brexit is exposed for what it is then Blame the New UKIP that is the Tories - only then can changes happen - its a long game I am afraid
 
It feels like the Tory party have used all their subs, and had three sent off in the first half, but Labour are still only 3-2 up with twenty minutes to play. Can we have some more political parties please? The current choices are just rubbish.

why? You do know there is a reason that we will be playing the dippers at the weekend with us kicking one way and them the other? Would it be better if the other semi was played across Wembley at the same time with goals spanning the half way line? The answer is not more parties - its less footballification of the two main parties and the strengthening of the LD's and the Greens - we have enough teams we need a stronger league
 
The BBC tweeted this clip of David Lammy calling for Johnson to resign....



The man is an ignoramus.

Churchill did not replace Chamberlain days before the 2nd World War, he became Prime Minister in May 1940, eight months after the war began.

Lloyd George did not replace Asquith "weeks" into the battle of the Somme, The battle started on the 21st June 1916 and ended on 28th September of that year, Lloyd George did not become Prime Minister until December 7th 1916, more than two months after the battle ended.

Anthony Eden did not lose his Job during the Suez Crisis of 1956, he resigned due to ill health in 1957.

I know these things and I'm not a professional politician, but he is!

Sadly it sums up the political classes on both sides. You’d think basic facts would be a minimum requirement but no, hardly any of them seem capable of even that.
Apparently, Cameron resigned after he lost the SECOND referendum, according to Lammy as well…..
 
Sadly it sums up the political classes on both sides. You’d think basic facts would be a minimum requirement but no, hardly any of them seem capable of even that.
Apparently, Cameron resigned after he lost the SECOND referendum, according to Lammy as well…..

Peculiar way to put it but he's right on that, we've had two referendums on membership of the European Community, 1975 and 2016.

Clearly no one at the BBC knew any better than Lammy, they reported this rubbish verbatim with no attempt at a correction.
 
The BBC tweeted this clip of David Lammy calling for Johnson to resign....



The man is an ignoramus.

Churchill did not replace Chamberlain days before the 2nd World War, he became Prime Minister in May 1940, eight months after the war began.

Lloyd George did not replace Asquith "weeks" into the battle of the Somme, The battle started on the 21st June 1916 and ended on 28th September of that year, Lloyd George did not become Prime Minister until December 7th 1916, more than two months after the battle ended.

Anthony Eden did not lose his Job during the Suez Crisis of 1956, he resigned due to ill health in 1957.

I know these things and I'm not a professional politician, but he is!

Lammy is obviously not a historian. Still, even wiki gives September and November dates for the end of the Battle of the Somme (and men died at Ancre in 1917 before the German Army withdrew from the Somme) but - perhaps more pertinently to now - the press barons who say we can't change PM because of someone else's war were actively trying to replace Asquith during our own war (in which his son had died).

And the Suez crisis was obviously still a crisis for Eden until he resigned.

The details are obviously awry, but the point is still made. Of course the PM can be removed during a crisis.
 
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