United Thread - 2021/22

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Eds said:
Now I am no accountant but the latest accounts don't make good reading for Gary. Wonder what he thinks when he sees that the club owes £9.65m on crowds of a couple of thousand. And Project 92 the parent club's accounts don't look too clever either. Not easy this business lark is it Gary
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Incase he pipes up about Agent fees if we sign Haaland:

League Two agents an intermediaries fees from February 1, 2020, to February 1, 2021

Salford City - £137,884

Forest Green Rovers - £79,372

Leyton Orient - £72,117

Bradford City - £71,369

Mansfield Town - £66,045

Cheltenham Town - £52,676

Bolton Wanderers - £52,673
 
Ten Bob has a very difficult project in front of him and there will be no quick fix, at least not with these players.

Ronaldo is capable of scoring goals, but that's it. Will he be like Pogba and out of the door.

What's happened to the likes of Fernandes and Rashford? When he wasn't falling over, Fernandes was creating and making opportunities and Rashford looked keen and dangerous. Rashford seems to have dropped off after his injury and being promoted to sainthood. Now he looks disinterested.

Sancho was another that looked like his heart wasn't in the game yesterday. De Gea has kept them in their present league position this season, but like others, he must be wondering why he wasn't with another more inspired team.

Although he's the wrong end of the age scale, from the games I've watched, at least Cavani tries to close down and puts in some effort.

It's not just on the pitch that this team have big problems, it's right the way through the structure of the club. I think the present problems go back to 2013. There didn't seem to be any transition planning for the 'exit' of Ferguson and they've been spiraling downward ever since. Their response been to change managers, as if one will come in and magically turn things around, but it must be evident that managers are not the sole reason for this decline.

When the top teams have bought players, they have generally been bought for a specific roll to improve the group, but United's recruitment has been expensive and poorly thought out. Look at Ronaldo, the writing was on the wall before he even put a foot on the pitch and 80 million for tugboat Maguire was Christmas come early for Leicester.

They have a bunch of players, but not a TEAM.
Without a TEAM, they won't get success.
 
hertsblue said:
Incase he pipes up about Agent fees if we sign Haaland:

League Two agents an intermediaries fees from February 1, 2020, to February 1, 2021

Salford City - £137,884

Forest Green Rovers - £79,372

Leyton Orient - £72,117

Bradford City - £71,369

Mansfield Town - £66,045

Cheltenham Town - £52,676

Bolton Wanderers - £52,673
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'So Gary, agents fees, you must agree that when a club in a league is spending, what, say 40% more than any other club in the same league, that you have to take a long look at how the club is financed and whether the club, it's management and owners should be investigated for financial irregularities, impropiety and falling foul of any rules that can be found?'

'Yes, exactly, Manchester City's finances are and have been very suspect...'

'Sorry, Gary, just to interrupt you there,I was talking about Division 2'

'oh..'

'Do you have any comment to make on Salford City, being as though you are a director, and they have spent 40% more than any other club on agent's fee's in the division, are sponsored by companies related to the owners country, whilst also having the smallest crowds?'

' errm... isn't it time for an Ad-break?!!'
 
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Playing Phil the Face was a joke, he was out of breath after 20 minutes, Pogba couldnt get off the pitch fast enough, Rat Face did his usual disappearing act and you only noticed him late on when yet again he kicked out and only got a yellow, Rashford was his usual crap self, Sancho looking like a 75 million flop, the Genius manager playing Matic in the middle v the movement of the Dippers, Maguire, well just Maguire, great pass for one of the Dippers goal, Elanga looking totally out of his depth and the less said about Wreck it the better , he actually has made then worse than Ole, 2 shots 1 on target with a team/subs costing 500 million
 
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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If there was a double-like button...
 
Newman Noggs said:
This really interested me. Ignoring the fact that the rules are changing to, effectively, encourage owners to pocket 30% of turnover rather than invest it in the team, how much does Neville think £25m buys you these days ? That's equivalent to Pogba or Sanchez's salary for a year. Relative to everything else, it's peanuts and a total red-herring.
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Plus the fact that as a PLC pre Glazer, dividends were paid out regardless of on field success & I never heard any complaints out of anyone

Wonder why that was? What’s the difference between now & then? Pmsl
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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Me and you both mate.

That horrible man Ferguson never once condemned that banner, yet he went apoplectic when we stuck the "Welcome to Manchester" one up in the City.

He then went on to say "Not in my lifetime" when asked if MUFC would ever go into a derby match as underdogs. Try asking him that question again, I dare the media.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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Amen brother.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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You`re my kind of guy (not sexually I must add) ;)
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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I think we've all shared your pain. Fuck em give em both barrels even though they're not intrested in football anymore.
Here in ireland its ironic that league of ireland attendances are on the rise. I wonder why?
 
hertsblue said:
Incase he pipes up about Agent fees if we sign Haaland:

League Two agents an intermediaries fees from February 1, 2020, to February 1, 2021

Salford City - £137,884

Forest Green Rovers - £79,372

Leyton Orient - £72,117

Bradford City - £71,369

Mansfield Town - £66,045

Cheltenham Town - £52,676

Bolton Wanderers - £52,673
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So please explain how a club with nothing near our income ( btw I know it was Covid etc but we would have still had more short sales etc ) can outspend us comfortably ?????
His gripe against Man City’s spending is the biggest double standards going based on this isn’t it ?????
I bet you any money that yet again they will outspend the majority or in fact all of the league despite pulling in knowhere near the numbers that my club pull in
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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Fantastic post.Never ever forget the club sanctioned banner.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
As my username suggests I’m revelling in the demise of the rancid club from Stretford, I’ve hated them with a passion for 50 years. I had to persuade my son in his early teens not to go to the other side, stick it out and stay a blue, thankfully he did. Throughout my work life I’ve suffered at the hands of the rag fans, kanchelsis hat trick in the 5-0, rug heads over head kick, the paperboys winner in Barcelona, winning the cup winners cup in 91 on the same day I was made redundant, GPC every time I looked at him, the family man’s winner in the semi against Arsenal. All these bad memories and piss take from my rag colleagues. But now I make them have it, one rag in particular who sent me the table after day one of this season, I kid you not he’s had it back 30 times since after each game this season. But above all that banner, ratified by the scum of a club taking the piss out of their neighbours who to a man stood in silence at the Munich 50th anniversary. For the banner, for that reason alone, when the mighty that have fallen come knocking on the Etihad door asking to play their while they have their Lego ground redeveloped, we should stick 2 fingers up and slam the door in their face. SCUM
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Never ever forget , SCUM
 

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blue b4 the moon said:
Just had a gander at the share price a £1 share on flotation is now worth 70p.
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Just took a quick look at their NY stock exchange price. It’s $14, which is exactly what it was when they floated ten years ago. That $14 in 2012 is now the equivalent of over $17 in today’s money. In other words, it’s lost about 25% of value.
 
roman totale said:
Just took a quick look at their NY stock exchange price. It’s $14, which is exactly what it was when they floated ten years ago. That $14 in 2012 is now the equivalent of over $17 in today’s money. In other words, it’s lost about 25% of value.
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It was floated at a smidgen under $20 on my searches and is now $14. Did you click max period or just look at 1 day?

 
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