#14 | Aymeric Laporte - 2021/22 Performances

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I know laporte is always on the verge of being a scapegoat but Why the hell is he getting the brunt of the blame for the second goal and others haven't even had a mention. dinho let's him go, mistake that we had to expect given his age and unfamiliarity with the position so poor mistake but hard to lay blame there. Rodri is miles away from covering, should have been deeper to come round on the cover especially when he knows he doesn't have the mobility to recover and Dias is practically in their fucking box, fuck knows what he's doing. laporte could and should have closed it down, he's left with a bunch of shit options and made the wrong call but of Dias, Rodri and laporte, laportes error is the most excusable in my eyes, I'm looking firmly at Dias.

Penalty is just one of them, hand shouldn't have been there, looks moronic to us watching on but anybody that's every played the game at even a Sunday league level knows your arms naturally go up, just one of those things.

Laportes still been our best central defender all season, some of the shit he gets is laughable.

This shouldn't come as a shock but he's getting the blame because he was to blame. How are you blaming Dias & Rodri? We always play like that they arnt mystic Meg! They can't be expected to know Fernandinho is going to jump in and get skinned. Laporte watched Vinicious run a full half of the pitch and decided he would mark Zinchenko instead of close the space. As for the handball yes everybody knows your arms come up when you jump but not up above your head and then to head the ball off your own hand it's just an awful mistake.

Laporte has been our best centre half all season? Are you genuinely serious? He constantly makes mistakes and is the reason we lost at home to Palace he was poor vs Tottenham when we lost he's a mistake waiting to happen & it's happening regularly.
 
I'm a fan of Laporte, but he can see Vinicius all the way their second goal and how he doesn't close him down and either take the ball or the man before he get's to the box, is unbelevable to me.

The only thing I can think of that makes any sense from his point of view is that there was a communication issue and he didn't know Zinchenko was covering the spare man so he didn't want to commit and give them an easy pass for a tap in. Not really sure I believe it but I do think there were a couple of times where the spacing between the two of them was completely off.
 
I know laporte is always on the verge of being a scapegoat but Why the hell is he getting the brunt of the blame for the second goal and others haven't even had a mention. dinho let's him go, mistake that we had to expect given his age and unfamiliarity with the position so poor mistake but hard to lay blame there. Rodri is miles away from covering, should have been deeper to come round on the cover especially when he knows he doesn't have the mobility to recover and Dias is practically in their fucking box, fuck knows what he's doing. laporte could and should have closed it down, he's left with a bunch of shit options and made the wrong call but of Dias, Rodri and laporte, laportes error is the most excusable in my eyes, I'm looking firmly at Dias.

Penalty is just one of them, hand shouldn't have been there, looks moronic to us watching on but anybody that's every played the game at even a Sunday league level knows your arms naturally go up, just one of those things.

Laportes still been our best central defender all season, some of the shit he gets is laughable.
I agree and yeah there is plenty of blame for whole build up and goal.

But Laporte had time and should've looked to see where Zinchenko and Benzema were and then taken charge of the situation and not let him get into our box.
 
I agree and yeah there is plenty of blame for whole build up and goal.

But Laporte had time and should've looked to see where Zinchenko and Benzema were and then taken charge of the situation and not let him get into our box.
Reminded me of the goal by Fatty Shaw at our place. Just letting him run and run and run. I was thinking someone is surely doing to try and stop him at some point. No. Why do that. Even Ederson was stuck to his line. It was a horrendous goal to concede.
 
The only thing I can think of that makes any sense from his point of view is that there was a communication issue and he didn't know Zinchenko was covering the spare man so he didn't want to commit and give them an easy pass for a tap in. Not really sure I believe it but I do think there were a couple of times where the spacing between the two of them was completely off.
Just seen it on TV and he had time to see where Zinchenko was and take action, his indecision was inexcusable really.
But he wasn't the only at fault, where was Dias? and i thought Ederson could've done better too.

Oh well we won and will win next week.
 
This shouldn't come as a shock but he's getting the blame because he was to blame. How are you blaming Dias & Rodri? We always play like that they arnt mystic Meg! They can't be expected to know Fernandinho is going to jump in and get skinned. Laporte watched Vinicious run a full half of the pitch and decided he would mark Zinchenko instead of close the space. As for the handball yes everybody knows your arms come up when you jump but not up above your head and then to head the ball off your own hand it's just an awful mistake.

Laporte has been our best centre half all season? Are you genuinely serious? He constantly makes mistakes and is the reason we lost at home to Palace he was poor vs Tottenham when we lost he's a mistake waiting to happen & it's happening regularly.

We always play like that when we have Kyle walker, we didn't have Kyle walker tonight. laporte, or ake or dias, whoever plays on the left side, covers the left back in the same manner I suggested as they should because whoever our left back is, isn't Kyle walker, the same thing should have happened with our right back when it's not walker, perhaps even over compensating when we've got Fernandinho filling in there.

Dias shouldn't be on the right wing, go back and look specifically at where dias is, its shocking positioning, he's marking space on the right wing, there no reason at all for him to be there, it's a horrendous error and the main reason why there's a huge fucking gap where he should be, that's why they've scored that goal.

They might not be mystic Meg but defenders have to be pessimists, they should always be anticipating a fuck up and ready to cover.

Putting the primary blame on the left sided centre back because he's been left up shit creek due to the right back, right centre back and holding midfielder leaving the entire side vacant isn't correct in my eyes. It's clear laporte should have closed the ball, but it's not hard to see the shit situation he was left in, I'm guessing he's thinking Rodri can get back to narrow the angle and wants to cut off the simpler cutback finish and let vinicius take his chances from a narrower angle under some pressure, it's the wrong decision but it's a much lesser error than Dias who has so far received zero criticism whilst laporte been labelled shit, a liability and god knows what else.
 
I agree and yeah there is plenty of blame for whole build up and goal.

But Laporte had time and should've looked to see where Zinchenko and Benzema were and then taken charge of the situation and not let him get into our box.
Agreed mate. I'm not saying he didn't make an error in his decision making, he did, I was simply pointing out there were far bigger errors made prior to that and that's where the blame should be centred if people want to start throwing shit around after a semi final win. Some people would just rather direct attention towards something that fits their own biases than the reality. Dias is the culprit, laporte is his accomplice in that criminal bit of defending.
 
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That's Dias at the top right side of the of the screen, putting on a half press on the right wing with absolutely nobody else putting any kind of press on.
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And that's him in a similar position now marking space still woefully out of position just as the pass forward to vinicius is played. everybody else infront of him is getting back into shape with no hard press on and his back line that he's supposed to be organising is 20 yards behind him a man down and left 3 v 3.

Don't know how anybody can see that and blame somebody else other than Dias for that goal.
 
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That's Dias at the top right side of the of the screen, putting on a half press on the right wing with absolutely nobody else putting any kind of press on.
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And that's him in a similar position now marking space still woefully out of position just as the pass forward to vinicius is played. everybody else infront of him is getting back into shape with no hard press on and his back line that he's supposed to be organising is 20 yards behind him a man down and left 3 v 3.

Don't know how anybody can see that and blame somebody else other than Dias for that goal.
Just said this in the PGT.. frustrating
 
Possibly the worst bit of defending I’ve seen from a city player all season, on their second goal. In fact worst I’ve seen since Mendy was in the team.

Yes that Dias press and positioning looks iffy too, I’ll have to watch a replay again. Hopefully we see a settled CB partnership of Stones and Dias again next season.
 
Walker would have had Vinicius in his pocket. Their second goal was not only Laporte fault but more so Fernandinho poor intervention when he let the ball slip under his feet and could not catch up with Vinicious. That said, Fernandinho was just a makeshift solution as a fullback but Laporte is younger and a cut-and-dried defender so he takes most of the blame. Laporte cost us yesterday and was poor, and his performance was very reminiscent of our debacle against Spurs in CL. As much as we can blame our front three for missing chances but the fact is they scored four goals whereas our defense kept Real Madrid hopes alive by conceding three goals at home ! Their attackers are not world beaters barring Benzema and to a lesser extent the overrated Vinicius. Our defense and keeper were out of their depths and I hope Walker and Stones recover, otherwise we will be in the mud in the second leg.
 
Towards the end of Vini Jnrs run Laporte is actually running *away* from him. Was screaming at him at the time to come across and baffled at what he chose to do.

Hopefully Stones overcomes his niggles. At this level he makes a difference.
 
I know laporte is always on the verge of being a scapegoat but Why the hell is he getting the brunt of the blame for the second goal and others haven't even had a mention. dinho let's him go, mistake that we had to expect given his age and unfamiliarity with the position so poor mistake but hard to lay blame there. Rodri is miles away from covering, should have been deeper to come round on the cover especially when he knows he doesn't have the mobility to recover and Dias is practically in their fucking box, fuck knows what he's doing. laporte could and should have closed it down, he's left with a bunch of shit options and made the wrong call but of Dias, Rodri and laporte, laportes error is the most excusable in my eyes, I'm looking firmly at Dias.

Penalty is just one of them, hand shouldn't have been there, looks moronic to us watching on but anybody that's every played the game at even a Sunday league level knows your arms naturally go up, just one of those things.

Laportes still been our best central defender all season, some of the shit he gets is laughable.
How could Rodri have been deeper? I know you are trying to spread blame around. But sorry this ain't it. We were in a high press trying to retrieve the ball. Everyone with the exception of Laporte was in the other half... On purpose by the way. Why in the world would Rodri be deeper? Deeper where? Behind Laporte?

It was Simply Dihno's error and has little to do with unfamiliarity with the position. He gambled and lost. He didn't need to gamble, but he often does and wins the ball high. This time he was fooled.

Rodri in the middle, deeper or not would never had recovered.

Dihno screwed up and Laporte reacted incorrectly coz he didn't communicate. Even It has been a 2 v 1. He still should have gone towards the Ball while trying to block a possible cross. So his decision was the dumbest. Even if Dihno is primarily at fault.

Rodri was not relevant to the play
 
How could Rodri have been deeper? I know you are trying to spread blame around. But sorry this ain't it. We were in a high press trying to retrieve the ball. Everyone with the exception of Laporte was in the other half... On purpose by the way. Why in the world would Rodri be deeper? Deeper where? Behind Laporte?

It was Simply Dihno's error and has little to do with unfamiliarity with the position. He gambled and lost. He didn't need to gamble, but he often does and wins the ball high. This time he was fooled.

Rodri in the middle, deeper or not would never had recovered.

Dihno screwed up and Laporte reacted incorrectly coz he didn't communicate. Even It has been a 2 v 1. He still should have gone towards the Ball while trying to block a possible cross. So his decision was the dumbest. Even if Dihno is primarily at fault.

Rodri was not relevant to the play

Look at the stills I posted above, he is initially in a good position but once he sees Diaz lose his mind, in that instant he should immediately recognise the gap behind and have dropped straight back into the hole instead of holding his position. Not sure why you say he would have never recovered, he almost puts in a challenge, if he's 5-10 yards deeper when the ball is released to vinicius he gets to him in time to do something to affect the play, he probably gets to him somewhere just inside the box to either attempt a block, force him to do something different or shoot from a harder angle. I didn't dwell on Rodri because of the players I mentioned it's the least significant error and is only an error in the first place because of Diaz, but it's still something.

I don't agree saying dinho didn't have to gamble, his only chance he had last night against vinicius was to get tight. If he drops and allows him to pick the ball up and run at him he's dead, it's high risk but he was always fighting a losing battle and that was the only way he gets out of it without being roasted
 
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That's Dias at the top right side of the of the screen, putting on a half press on the right wing with absolutely nobody else putting any kind of press on.
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And that's him in a similar position now marking space still woefully out of position just as the pass forward to vinicius is played. everybody else infront of him is getting back into shape with no hard press on and his back line that he's supposed to be organising is 20 yards behind him a man down and left 3 v 3.

Don't know how anybody can see that and blame somebody else other than Dias for that goal.
Haha absolutely spot on mate. Laporte has made mistakes before in Europe though(unlike the rest of the team hence us never winning it) the perfect scapegoat.

Watching it live I thought Laporte was class. Yes he should have gone across in the end for that goal but it wasn’t his error and they’d have probably just squared it for an easy finish anyway. The pen was purely unlucky.
 
How could Rodri have been deeper? I know you are trying to spread blame around. But sorry this ain't it. We were in a high press trying to retrieve the ball. Everyone with the exception of Laporte was in the other half... On purpose by the way. Why in the world would Rodri be deeper? Deeper where? Behind Laporte?

It was Simply Dihno's error and has little to do with unfamiliarity with the position. He gambled and lost. He didn't need to gamble, but he often does and wins the ball high. This time he was fooled.

Rodri in the middle, deeper or not would never had recovered.

Dihno screwed up and Laporte reacted incorrectly coz he didn't communicate. Even It has been a 2 v 1. He still should have gone towards the Ball while trying to block a possible cross. So his decision was the dumbest. Even if Dihno is primarily at fault.

Rodri was not relevant to the play
Crazy Dias doesn’t get mentioned. He’s the centre back covering the old emergency right back and presses like fuck with a 2 goal lead leaving Dinho exposed. Horrendous game management from Ruben
 
Haha absolutely spot on mate. Laporte has made mistakes before in Europe though(unlike the rest of the team hence us never winning it) the perfect scapegoat.

Watching it live I thought Laporte was class. Yes he should have gone across in the end for that goal but it wasn’t his error and they’d have probably just squared it for an easy finish anyway. The pen was purely unlucky.
All players have to react to the situation put in front of them. A player cannot watch a play unfold and give it the old 'ah well, he isn't my man'. I would expect any average CB to understand what needs to be done in that situation and I have watched him twice in a matter of days shirk all responsibility, by failing to go and engage the man with the ball. If he engages and they roll it across and score, none of it is on Laporte. To simply jog back in a straight line and watch someone run 60 yards towards our goal and not bother to go across is criminal.

I like Laporte, I have backed him countless times in this thread when he has been getting pelters but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade. He is fantastic in possession, but he has become one of the most passive CBs on the planet. We get away with it most weeks because the opposition are no good but in games like this he needs to toughen up.
 
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