UEFA Independent Inquiry

[Claytop]

French minister blames Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool for Champions League chaos

'30,000 to 40,000 Liverpool supporters found themselves at the Stade de France either with fake tickets or without a ticket'

metro.co.uk

‘The tickets are normally electronic, they were made in paper at the request of Liverpool. The 22,000 English tickets were all paper, which contributed to massive and industrial fraud,’ Darmanin said.

‘Comparisons with the Olympics and the Rugby World Cup seems to me quite disproportionate, knowing that it’s obviously only in football with certain English clubs that these events happen.

There is also the Liverpool coach [Klopp] who called on the supporters to travel to France even without tickets.

‘We ended up with tens of thousands of British supporters, some of whom had respected the rules perfectly. And a minor, but extremely lively, section which pushed the authorities.’

 

[give it to gordon]

French minister blames Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool for Champions League chaos

'30,000 to 40,000 Liverpool supporters found themselves at the Stade de France either with fake tickets or without a ticket'

metro.co.uk

‘The tickets are normally electronic, they were made in paper at the request of Liverpool. The 22,000 English tickets were all paper, which contributed to massive and industrial fraud,’ Darmanin said.

‘Comparisons with the Olympics and the Rugby World Cup seems to me quite disproportionate, knowing that it’s obviously only in football with certain English clubs that these events happen.

There is also the Liverpool coach [Klopp] who called on the supporters to travel to France even without tickets.

‘We ended up with tens of thousands of British supporters, some of whom had respected the rules perfectly. And a minor, but extremely lively, section which pushed the authorities.’

This is the line the British press/media should be taking .

Why did LFC want paper tickets ? I could put 2 +2 together but I wont say what I think the reason is ;)

Why did klopp call for non ticket fans to go over ?

Answering one on my own questions from earlier it seems the fraudsters targeted the dippers because RM use electronic tickets. Which LFC decision to use paper 100% the cause of the problem

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

They take pride in doing so. The halfwit who blagged his way into the ground in a suit and fake press credentials is a perfect example. Not content with this, he then had to post his picture all over mocking the officials for conning them. Just like brain dead criminals pose with stacks of cash and guns online then wonder why the door gets kicked in and they're sat in a prison cell asap.

It's not enough for the scousers to get one over on people, oh no. They then have to rub their noses in it and laugh at them. That's why zero fucks are given about them when a few get gassed hit around the chops with a baton and miss a game.

Wonder if the lad gets a knock from Interpol ? Would imagine the French/Uefa are very keen to speak to anyone with confirmed fake tickets & how they where acquired, Merseyside police will probably intercept these people with a firm no case to answer the result

 

[give it to gordon]

Wonder if the lad gets a knock from Interpol ? Would imagine the French/Uefa are very keen to speak to anyone with confirmed fake tickets & how they where acquired, Merseyside police will probably intercept these people with a firm no case to answer the result

Merseyside police have properly put him in a safe place ........


Like work lol

 

[Scouse Blue]

Apologies if already posted, but made me laugh out loud :-).....

Steve Rotherham, mayor of Liverpool City Region, was one of their victims. "Like too many others, I had my phone and other belongings stolen by dippers [pickpockets] on the approach to the stadium," he said on Monday.

 

[paulchapo]

This is the line the British press/media should be taking .

Why did LFC want paper tickets ? I could put 2 +2 together but I wont say what I think the reason is ;)

Why did klopp call for non ticket fans to go over ?

Answering one on my own questions from earlier it seems the fraudsters targeted the dippers because RM use electronic tickets. Which LFC decision to use paper 100% the cause of the problem

I know it's the same for Madrid fans but possibly the fear fans batteries on phones would die out was the reason they thought paper tickets would be better?

Klopp is a balloon that's why. He can't help letting his mouth run away with himself. He's immersed himself into the cult mentality that everything they do is bigger and better, so hey let's take 150,000 fans to Paris, because this means more and we'll show the world that.

As for the fraud it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if an insider at the club managed to get some way of reproducing the codes on the tickets and decided to make a few bob. This is a club found guilty of hacking at the top level remember so of course going down the chain there will be plenty of wrong un,'s. At £100.a ticket or whatever they were charging that's a nice little earner.

 

[paulchapo]

Wonder if the lad gets a knock from Interpol ? Would imagine the French/Uefa are very keen to speak to anyone with confirmed fake tickets & how they where acquired, Merseyside police will probably intercept these people with a firm no case to answer the result

It makes me laugh they all delete their tweets not realising loads of people will have already screenshot them.

As the mirror seems to be on the scousers cases maybe all these screenshots of the boasting Muppets and of the bundles of fake tickets should be sent to them. Also a reminder that this is a club steeped in dishonest behaviour as they were found guilt of hacking our database.

 

[jonah62]

The media in this country would make Joseph Goebells look amateur

 

[give it to gordon]

I know it's the same for Madrid fans but possibly the fear fans batteries on phones would die out was the reason they thought paper tickets would be better?

Klopp is a balloon that's why. He can't help letting his mouth run away with himself. He's immersed himself into the cult mentality that everything they do is bigger and better, so hey let's take 150,000 fans to Paris, because this means more and we'll show the world that.

As for the fraud it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if an insider at the club managed to get some way of reproducing the codes on the tickets and decided to make a few bob. This is a club found guilty of hacking at the top level remember so of course going down the chain there will be plenty of wrong un,'s. At £100.a ticket or whatever they were charging that's a nice little earner.

I get your point about the phone life. Seems on that RM thought their fans phones would be ok !.

Surely if your ticket was on your phone you would take care of the battery. The same as if a paper ticket was in my wallet.

If you have spent hundreds of pounds on tickets, travel etc than getting a cheap charging pack would break the bank.

 

[west didsblue]

Not every match going fan wears a club shirt

I would say that the average jibber probably wouldn't be wearing club colours.

 

[paulchapo]

I get your point about the phone life. Seems on that RM thought their fans phones would be ok !.

Surely if your ticket was on your phone you would take care of the battery. The same as if a paper ticket was in my wallet.

If you have spent hundreds of pounds on tickets, travel etc than getting a cheap charging pack would break the bank.

I'm not sure how to go about all that shit myself and I'm being honest. Also unless you've got accomodation booked you'd be one of thousands scrambling about trying to find a charging point.

 

[Lauz9888]

I know it's the same for Madrid fans but possibly the fear fans batteries on phones would die out was the reason they thought paper tickets would be better?

There's a huge range of power banks available in the <£20 price range and they're good to be shared amongst a small travelling group and keep everyone with enough power to be able to show their tickets. If you can afford a trip to Paris and ticket to the Champions League final then you can afford to keep your phone charged.

A club that was genuinely worried about the charging situation could share information with fans about how to preserve battery life and about locations of charging points en route or on location (every major transport terminal between Liverpool and Paris, for starters), or could even look into setting up a quick-charging stall near the stadium at relatively little cost.

 

[west didsblue]

They take pride in doing so. The halfwit who blagged his way into the ground in a suit and fake press credentials is a perfect example. Not content with this, he then had to post his picture all over mocking the officials for conning them. Just like brain dead criminals pose with stacks of cash and guns online then wonder why the door gets kicked in and they're sat in a prison cell asap.

It's not enough for the scousers to get one over on people, oh no. They then have to rub their noses in it and laugh at them. That's why zero fucks are given about them when a few get gassed hit around the chops with a baton and miss a game.

To be honest, a jibber who gets in without climbing over fences, without wrestling their way past security or without using a snide ticket that prevents the real owner from getting in is fine by me, as long as they don't start boasting about it on social media, in which case they're as stupid as the rest of them.

 

[paulchapo]

To be honest, a jibber who gets in without climbing over fences, without wrestling their way past security or without using a snide ticket that prevents the real owner from getting in is fine by me, as long as they don't start boasting about it on social media, in which case they're as stupid as the rest of them.

Where does he go and who's place in the stadium does he take though?

 

[Corky]

French minister blames Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool for Champions League chaos

'30,000 to 40,000 Liverpool supporters found themselves at the Stade de France either with fake tickets or without a ticket'

metro.co.uk

‘The tickets are normally electronic, they were made in paper at the request of Liverpool. The 22,000 English tickets were all paper, which contributed to massive and industrial fraud,’ Darmanin said.

‘Comparisons with the Olympics and the Rugby World Cup seems to me quite disproportionate, knowing that it’s obviously only in football with certain English clubs that these events happen.

There is also the Liverpool coach [Klopp] who called on the supporters to travel to France even without tickets.

‘We ended up with tens of thousands of British supporters, some of whom had respected the rules perfectly. And a minor, but extremely lively, section which pushed the authorities.’

The tickets aren't normally electronic for the champions league final as we know.

 

[west didsblue]

Where does he go and who's place in the stadium does he take though?

It's only ever going to be very small numbers that have the ingenuity to get past security without them knowing so it wouldn't be difficult to go into an area where everyone's standing without causing a problem.

 

[paulchapo]

It's only ever going to be very small numbers that have the ingenuity to get past security without them knowing so it wouldn't be difficult to go into an area where everyone's standing without causing a problem.

I think he was masquerading as press so God knows how he carried that off once inside.

 

[crazyg]

and we are just blinkered crackpots…..well some of you are ;)

I resemble that remark!!

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It's only ever going to be very small numbers that have the ingenuity to get past security without them knowing so it wouldn't be difficult to go into an area where everyone's standing without causing a problem.

A single person blocking a stairway is a problem. 20 or 30 people blocking a stairway is an even bigger problem.

Imagine a bomb threat or a fire if there are people blocking the walkways. It'd be carnage.

 

[west didsblue]

I think he was masquerading as press so God knows how he carried that off once inside.

I suspect that once he got past the numerous levels of security outside the stadium, getting into the area he wanted once inside would have been a piece of piss. As I say, if not for the boasting about it on Social Media you could admire the ingenuity.