Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

[Vester]

I’m not guessing as much as knowing the Pep mentality and how his squads are built. Especially coming in on a large fee, you can expect him to be given a lot of game time and that only decreases if he can’t perform as expected. It’s really depressing to think about LMAO as we say in Brazil, best to laugh than to cry…

What you are describing is guessing based on assumptions and interpretations from what you've seen and read, just like the rest of us. Like I said, he will get his fair share of minutes to prove himself, but my guess is that he would be more ready to accept to not start the majority of games than someone like Rice, who is more likely to cause problems when his on the bench more often than starting, and he would probably turn us down anyway with his boyhood club Chelsea in the mix. I also doubt Pep cares much about the transfer fee, Grealish would have got the same amount of minutes regardless if he cost 10m or 100m. But again, all of this is just my guess that could obviously be wrong. Just like your guess.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

It has been mentioned by posters who keep a closer eye on the EDS that Lavia isn't ready for the first team and he would be a couple of seasons before he might be considered ready.

at least.

 

[asahartford1]

But now they have a manager that can do the job. That’s the shitty truth.

That's a big call.
Ajax spend as much as the rest of the League combined, and twice as much as their nearest competitor.
Be interesting to see if he is the next , new messiah.

 

[waspish]

Doyle for me is far better than Lavia

 

[Deleted member 87819]

That's a big call.
Ajax spend as much as the rest of the League combined, and twice as much as their nearest competitor.
Be interesting to see if he is the next , new messiah.

It’s not a big call, I’m only saying a good manager can do a job of putting a decent to good team together. Chelsea were in the shit with Lampard, brought Tuchel mid season and months later they won the Champions League with the same squad. Good managers make a difference. Also it’s not like United will have a problem spending big for him

 

[L4EV]

If you guys don’t want him he can stay where he’s appreciated.

Honestly I think he’d be great cover for Rodri and would suit your system very well. If he has to leave I think City would be the most tolerable destination (compared to say the rags). Problem of course is he’s worth more to us than he would be to you.

 

[asahartford1]

It’s not a big call, I’m only saying a good manager can do a job of putting a decent to good team together. Chelsea were in the shit with Lampard, brought Tuchel mid season and months later they won the Champions League with the same squad. Good managers make a difference. Also it’s not like United will have a problem spending big for him

It is a big call.
You are saying he is a good manager who will make United Successful.
They have spent big for all the previous managers since Fergie.
We will see.

 

[City_Sean]

I swear Phillips plays for League 2 with the talk on here. There is a reason we are signing a player who has played under Biesla. Pep knows exactly what he is getting and I don't doubt him. If Pep wanted De Jong, we would have been in for him, but he doesn't. I despise comparisons between players because there is just no way (specially in non attacking ones) to compare them in different teams with different style of football.

It's the typical people wanting someone from abroad as it's a sexier signing. Phillips will be a great signing. He adds exactly what we need, has already played in a system similar to Peps and can play both #6 and #8.

De Jong is a good player, but he's been fairly average at best since he's gone to Barcelona. The papers might say otherwise, but he isn't the sticking plaster who will suddenly transfer United's midfield.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Doyle for me is far better than Lavia

Blimey

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

The rumor is that Rice is a Chelsea fan who wants to join Chelsea, and Chelsea are likely to bid for him and offer the security in mins a player of his reputation wants. I just think City have chosen to try get an alternative who wants to come here and accepts that Rodri is main guy as CDM. But thats just my simple layman's guess, I obviously have no clue if thats really the case:)

Rice and his camp have wanted Chelsea to move in for 3 windows now. United have asked and gotten put on the long finger.

If Pep called rice would run, but there’s very little interest our end due to money and expectations of playing time considering Rodri is our guy.

 

[Vester]

Rice and his camp have wanted Chelsea to move in for 3 windows now. United have asked and gotten put on the long finger.

If Pep called rice would run, but there’s very little interest our end due to money and expectations of playing time considering Rodri is our guy.

I think Rice would turn us down for Chelsea if he had offers from both. Sure we are a better and more attractive club for almost any player, but the difference between our clubs is not big enough for him to turn his boyhood club down. Chelsea may not be on the same level as us, but they are not exactly Leeds, Villa or even Spurs/Arsenal. They won a CL just a year ago. I could be wrong of course, but thats my guess:)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

please choose a new user name in order to continue posting .
i suggest .
slippy.
spitty.
gnasher.
not to blame.

Jibber or Gibberish please.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

I think Rice would turn us down for Chelsea if he had offers from both. Sure we are a better and more attractive for almost any player, but the difference between our clubs is not big enough for him to turn his boyhood club down. Chelsea may not be on the same level as us, but they are not exactly Leeds, Villa or even Spurs/Arsenal. They won a CL just a year ago. I could be wrong of course, but thats my guess:)

As I said, they are waiting. But they can’t wait forever and Rice thought he’d be in Chelsea blue by now. Agents were all throwing potential replacements at west ham but a bid never materialized.

 

[mcfc482]

Apart from anything he is currently injury prone and not worth it for this alone. Feels like it would be a similar transfer to Delph where he is unreliable to be fit.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Apart from anything he is currently injury prone and not worth it for this alone. Feels like it would be a similar transfer to Delph where he is unreliable to be fit.

1 injury last year. 2 in the year before that.

prone. nope.

 

[Claytop]

Gus taking over another transfer thread I see…

Surely we’re past caring who United sign? Everytime they sign someone we get the ‘fuck he’ll actually improve them’ only for United to completely destroy said player.

We even had people say Ragnick appointment was worrying as he’d actually improve them, that went well.

Law of averages say at some point something will click I guess but I’m not remotely worried about them signing FDJ or Rice.

 

[Matt Diablo]

Funnily enough if Pep wants the bloke so do I. Really some on here got to stop playing Championship manager

 

[Bluemoon has risen]

If you guys don’t want him he can stay where he’s appreciated.

Honestly I think he’d be great cover for Rodri and would suit your system very well. If he has to leave I think City would be the most tolerable destination (compared to say the rags). Problem of course is he’s worth more to us than he would be to you.

I think he'd be a quality signing for us. He's already a very good player and I've no doubt given 18 months / 2 years he'd go up another level once Pep has worked with him.

Ignore some on here. No doubt some thought we overpaid for the likes of Stones, Walker, Dias etc too.

The cost doesn't really concern me. If City are willing to pay £50m-£60m and Pep wants him then that'll do for me.

 

[City_Sean]

Funnily enough if Pep wants the bloke so do I. Really some on here got to stop playing Championship manager

I think this is largely where I am. In the last recruitment has frustrated me, particularly last summer but ultimately the club have earned the right to pursue and do what they want. They're the elite club in the country and their policy always works.

They deserve our full trust.

 

[Metalartin]

Doyle for me is far better than Lavia

I'd honestly rather we buy nobody if neither of them are ready, I should have clarified. Doyle is more proven at senior level, whilst Lavia from what I hear has the higher ceiling but that's all opinions and predictions with young players. All I know is, Phillips could physically do a job for us(proved that much under Bielsa and with England) but I'm not really sure how much Pep could improve him, the more I think about it. He just doesn't seem a very technical player, that's not to say he's a bad player.

If Pep does want him though, I'm not going to complain, he's earned the right to make some calls like this. Hope we don't pay over the odds for him though.