Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

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I've never really understood this aspect of the forum, you get a bunch a City fans together in the pub to discuss Kalvin Phillips and you'll get a mixture of opinions, he's hardly a universally popular addition.
Very true. I don’t know if it’s because you don’t know who you’re talking to but definitely more agreement here. If a rag jumped in and said what a poor signing Phillips was the City fans would probably close ranks though, even down the pub :)
(not suggesting there are any posting on this topic).
 
Is this the Philips thread or the brexit thread?

Extreme polarised views on this players.

Fee is too high! We can buy better!

Unfortunately, this will lead to Kalvin getting abused as soon as he gets caught in possession or misplaces a pass.

We have attacks on Txiki if the media inform us that we did not buy the next exotic young player for 80m. 5 min later we have a thread defending the club’s financial transfer dealings. You know deep due diligence on each player etc etc.

So which is it? I have seen it in the Grealish thread. It must be due to the player being English and coming from a team in England. Jude does not get the same scrutiny for example.

The club seem capable of buying good players. The trophies and commercial growth show our success.

Philips looks a good player with a good attitude. He will never be Fern. Give him a chance and the fee will be what the club are happy to pay.

Transfer fees seem to be a fan obsession due to the lies spread in the MSM.
 
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£30-£40 million and I could understand it, as that’s probably his value and enough to pay for a squad player.

£60 million for this guy and it just stinks of lazy recruitment.
That's a piss poor statement to make about this club no matter your opinion on any particular player decision...using the word "lazy" to describe anything City do is actually shameful and goes clearly beyond the realm of a rational opinion...just like some on here over react to any bit of questioning regarding the club's decisions others get carried away with way over the top, reckless statements...yours is certainly one of those....just sayin'...
 
Is this the Philips thread or the brexit thread?

Extreme polarised views on this players.

Fee is too high! We can buy better!

Unfortunately, this will lead to the Kalvin getting abused as soon as he gets caught in possession or misplaces a pass.

We have attacks on Txiki if the media inform us that we did not buy the next exotic young player for 80m. 5 min later we have a thread defending the club’s financial transfer dealings.
You know deep due diligence on each player etc etc.

So which is it? I have seen it in the Grealish thread. It must be due to the player being English and coming from a team in England. Jude does not get the same scrutiny for example.

The club seem capable of buying good players. The trophies and commercial growth show our success.

Philips looks a good player with a good attitude. He will never be Fern. Give him a chance and the fee will be what the club are happy to pay.

Transfer fees seem to be a fan obsession due to the lies spread in the MSM.
If Kalvin's name was João and he played for Lisbon or Lazio it would be a different narrative on here.
 
Its almost as if we have thrived over the last five years in particular by diligently building a world class team and squad, mainly through identifying and signing the right players. Even when many of us here, myself included, may not have agreed with the deal at the time.
About five miles away over the city boundary, we can see the results of the very opposite, a vain, shallow and arrogant non-strategy of chasing the flashiest, shiniest, high profile toys, whether or not they are needed. With predictable results.
 
"City are willing to pay up to £60 million". Like as if anyone involved in the transfer is going to be let it known to a journalist what our maximum figure would be. Or that we regularly overpay for our stars. Our two new forwards look like bargains. If we have looked at Philips and rate him I think we should trust our valuation. We have walked away on loads of deals recently if City feel the fee is too much and moved on to other targets. This forum had doubts over Rodri and Diaz recently. It's hard to judge players when we rarely see them, especially if it's the odd game in Southgate's England side.
 
If Kalvin's name was João and he played for Lisbon or Lazio it would be a different narrative on here.

He'd probably be a better player too, and cost less.



I kid, I don't know enough to think he's that bad. I do think the 60m claims are nonsense though.
 
If Kalvin's name was João and he played for Lisbon or Lazio it would be a different narrative on here.
I agree . I cannot believe that we are not all over this one coming in as this guy under pep will be an absolute monster . £50-£60 million for a player who was immense for England last year when they got to the he euro final is a really good deal if we can pull it over the line but as you say because he hasn’t got the fancy name and doesn’t play for the fancy club he is not good enough for us . Very narrow minded view that is
 
If Kalvin's name was João and he played for Lisbon or Lazio it would be a different narrative on here.
Ironically, you are correct, except for the exact wrong reasons -

1. the "narrative" in here is that for some reason, Kalvin phillips is a world class player who's worth 60m and anyone who says otherwise is a pathetic basement dwelling arsehole who shouldn't even hold opinions.
2. There is in fact a player named João that is AT LEAST as good as Kalvin Phillips (and the same age) - his name is João Palhinha and he's going to wolves for £20m, and people dismiss whenever you suggest him.
3. Suggesting "foreign sounding names" here will get you labelled as a "Football Manager kid".
 
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