Romeo Lavia

bobbyowenquiff said:
You have to trust our youth and EDS management staff though. They have just enjoyed a second clean sweep of honours at all levels. We have made a lot of money from selling on Academy players and very few of them (If any) have gone on to be truly elite players. The problem City have these days (nice one to have) is that you have to be world class (or at least potential world class) to get in the first team. I thought Lavia looked a prospect so perhaps this decision will come back to bite us...but I doubt it.
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I agree,but i still believe opportunities at the right time and level presented themselves last season,with very little if any risk,to test a couple of kids.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
We’ve made close to £40m on academy player sales this summer alone. The academy is our biggest asset now, a steady turnover of money through sales with the possibility of the sold players coming back to City after progressing with their new club. We’re a brilliantly run club.


I think Delap will be the next one to go, probably next summer after a loan spell somewhere. He could easily fetch us £30m if he bangs in the goals while on loan.
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No doubt some set of cunts will be along shortly to write new rules designed to stop us doing this.
 
Chappie said:
If he was, he wouldn't be on his way to Southampton on a permanent deal.
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Both can be true. He was a special player in the academy, he needs to make a step up now, the gap between PL2 and our team is gonna be a bridge to far for 90% of the lads coming though and need a perfect storm of timing to be ready in a slot we need.
 
As I mentioned on the Ake thread , these youngsters need to see a pathway to the first team or they will leave

We haven’t really been but by this as yet but a some point we will lose a world beater

If you are Lavia and you’ve got 26 year old Phillips and 25 year old Rodri ahead of you where are you getting an opportunity any time soon
 
Shaffer92 said:
My thoughts as well. No way they make him play in PL2 again, right? Unless Pep plans on keeping him around the first team this season.
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At the moment he can`t even get into the England U19 starting eleven, although he has played the one game and scored the only goal.
Not certain if he`ll make it to a PL standard, but would be pleased to be proven wrong.
UPDATE !!
Ooopppssssssssssssss wrong thread I was talking about Delap ... and NO I` aint touched a drop of Guinness.
Looks like you also were talking about Delap. ;)
 
I'm usually on board with the sell with a buy back/sell on philosophy, most don't make it anywhere near our level anyway and when there eventually is one that we are gutted to lose, the money we will have made from all the others comfortably makes up for it.

This one seems a little odd though, he was a level if not 2 above the standard we usually let go, I know he wasn't going to get a look in next season but a loan with a year to show what he can do at a good level seems a better bet with this lad. One good season could see his value sky rocket. I know there's generally a reluctance for clubs to loan youngsters but we could have found somebody surely.

With the number of departures that are seemingly happening very quickly this week as well as fringe first teamer rumours rife, there is a lingering thought as to whether we need to get money in to balance the books before the end of this month. It's nothing but pure speculation on my part but things tally up, Grealish was very expensive off the back of the covid affected season and despite what some say about not caring what we pay for players, it matters.

Bazanu, Edozie, Lavia, Gyabi and Porro pretty much covers the Haaland fee. That's a lot of talent but will it ever total what Haaland is worth in a few years time? Seems less than likely to me.
 
ninjamonkey said:
I'm usually on board with the sell with a buy back/sell on philosophy, most don't make it anywhere near our level anyway and when there eventually is one that we are gutted to lose, the money we will have made from all the others comfortably makes up for it.

This one seems a little odd though, he was a level if not 2 above the standard we usually let go, I know he wasn't going to get a look in next season but a loan with a year to show what he can do at a good level seems a better bet with this lad. One good season could see his value sky rocket. I know there's generally a reluctance for clubs to loan youngsters but we could have found somebody surely.

With the number of departures that are seemingly happening very quickly this week as well as fringe first teamer rumours rife, there is a lingering thought as to whether we need to get money in to balance the books before the end of this month. It's nothing but pure speculation on my part but things tally up, Grealish was very expensive off the back of the covid affected season and despite what some say about not caring what we pay for players, it matters.

Bazanu, Edozie, Lavia, Gyabi and Porro pretty much covers the Haaland fee. That's a lot of talent but will it ever total what Haaland is worth in a few years time? Seems less than likely to me.
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Id say these will be the norm going forward instead of loans. If we have people who are ready for premier league loans then there are now restrictions with the 2 registrations rule. We seem to have found away around that rule with the sale with buyback options.

Additionally to me loans have not worked because in general clubs do not have the same desire to develop other clubs players - at least here there is an incentive in developing a player as well as getting a good player slightly cheaply and ahead of the competition.
 
I think City are starting to hit a brick wall with being able to find a good loan for players. Lavia may be supremely talented but convincing a top level team to give him game time ahead of their own talent just for him to end up leaving after a season is a hard sell. Why should another team help us out.
 
I’d imagine these deals with a good fee and no doubt a very fair buy back are you circumvent the new maximum loans a club can do? Might be wrong?
 
decmancity said:
I think City are starting to hit a brick wall with being able to find a good loan for players. Lavia may be supremely talented but convincing a top level team to give him game time ahead of their own talent just for him to end up leaving after a season is a hard sell. Why should another team help us out.
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There is a new Fifa ruling come into place this summer that any club can only loan out a maximum of 8 players so some academy players will probably have to be sold.
 
hihosilva said:
There is a new Fifa ruling come into place this summer that any club can only loan out a maximum of 8 players so some academy players will probably have to be sold.
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academy players dont count. U21s are exempt.
 
Guess the writing was on the wall with Phillips coming in.

These transfers always sting a bit but in the grand scheme of things this is a success story for the academy.

There's the obvious financial impact, but we are also churning out talent. There's a pathway to the first team at City - Foden, hopefully Palmer and McAtee soon - but if not, to other top tier clubs. Edozie, Bazunu, Lavia just this summer all got, in my opinion, pretty good moves for where they are in their career.

So even the ones who don't 'make it' here are getting world class coaching and appealing transfers right at the stage when they need to be playing. Looks good for the Academy and the Club.
 
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