Question Time

[Bodicoteblue]

Yet another old Etonian lecturing the audience on how grateful they should be

yep, complacent arrogant waffle.
An exhibition of supercilious patronising talking down to we ignorant plebs.

 

[blue for life]

Raab today didn’t even have the town halls to turn up to the parliament select committee today along with Patel they both cancelled till September knowing the summer recess is days away , and probably knowing there’ll both be out of their rolls and won’t be called up before their select committees Patel had to face questions on human rights and online safety for our youngsters but was to busy fighting blue on blue . Just another prime example for what they show utter and complete contempt and disregard for the public . Too focused on lining up yet another chair round the shiny new government, Never known a government like this you can’t polish a turd but there’ll try to roll one in glitter.

Blue for life I wasn’t having a go you mate .

I know. Well said

 

[MCFC1993]

Week-by-week Question Time is showing how fucked this country is.

People are bringing up genuine problems to which the government have no fucking solution and people on their 'payroll' i.e. The Telegraph journalist tonight just lap their shit up.


There needs to be an economic plan that tackles every one of the major issues but the government are more interested in buzz words.

 

[A57 the snake]

Very impressed with Chris Bryant watched him last week in the grilling of Johnson during the select committee, straight to the point very well researched , no bull shit buzz words ,
Probably done more for Labour tonight than anyone within the Labour Party during the series.I like the bloke hope he gets a good job within the cabinet when this mob have gone.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Yet another old Etonian lecturing the audience on how grateful they should be

You would have thought parents putting kids names down for Eton would be appalled at the product of that institution that ends up in government........................ except they are putting their offsprings names down for Eton because that is the outcome they expect

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Week-by-week Question Time is showing how fucked this country is.

People are bringing up genuine problems to which the government have no fucking solution and people on their 'payroll' i.e. The Telegraph journalist tonight just lap their shit up.


There needs to be an economic plan that tackles every one of the major issues but the government are more interested in buzz words.

You’ve got that the wrong way round. The government are on the payroll of the press owning, tax evading millionaires as well as the strangely independent City of London.

 

[NPBlue]

Bim Afolami - tonights vacuum trying to defend the Tory shit show - in his eyes he is showing his Party's time is up

Chris Bryant nailed him to the post, and he really didn't know how to respond, but how would he when in his heart he has been defending the indefensible. Supporting Johnson backed him into a hole. He knows Johnson dragged him down into being a liar, but he was prepared to put up with it for his career advancement.

 

[crublue1]

great to see the red wall racists out in force - the guy just now said that we are full up - population densities are

UK -- 281 per Km2
Rwanda -- 525 per Km2

How's that working out fella?

So are target is 525 then?
Could we say we're full up then?
Then what?

 

[crublue1]

We need to grow are own grain and vegetables. Get the workshy cunts to pick them, or no benefits.
Open back up that nuclear plant that was closed.
The North Sea is full of oil. Let's drill it and refine it, and sell it to us at a fair price.
Brexit has been a failure,
We could be self sufficient .

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

We need to grow are own grain and vegetables. Get the workshy cunts to pick them, or no benefits.
Open back up that nuclear plant that was closed.
The North Sea is full of oil. Let's drill it and refine it, and sell it to us at a fair price.
Brexit has been a failure,
We could be self sufficient .

I wouldn’t normally slate somebody on here but I’d certainly make an exception for you.

 

[crublue1]

I wouldn’t normally slate somebody on here but I’d certainly make an exception for you.

Am I supposed to feel privileged by that? Go on then I'll bite, slate me.
Looking forward to the fountain of knowledge that you've cleverly kept hidden until now.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Sounded as though the Beergate smears have escalated, given the question about "ordering 30 pizzas".
It just shows another example that lies and smears are louder than the truth.

 

[blue for life]

Sounded as though the Beergate smears have escalated, given the question about "ordering 30 pizzas".
It just shows another example that lies and smears are louder than the truth.

To be fair it was immediately dismissed by Bryant and even Bruce!! It was probably a Tory plant. The audience didn’t even react.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

To be fair it was immediately dismissed by Bryant and even Bruce!! It was probably a Tory plant. The audience didn’t even react.

It was, but where on earth did that come from? That was my point - somehow he thinks that 30 pizzas were ordered.
I did note that they didn't give him any more time to spout rubbish.

I have it on at the moment - the Hitchin MP tries to keep to the party line but is out of his depth; flubbed the "why did you stay so long" badly, but that's no different from most of the MPs. Telegraph journo makes some good points and drowns some of them with spin.
Whichever one said that the country just needs the grown-up conversation on the problems to be fixed and difficulties was exactly right - it isn't a simple thing, but baseless promises which are deliberately unfulfilled are definitely not the way.
Bryant, Farmer and Teacher are pretty formidable to go up against.

 

[BobKowalski]

We need to grow are own grain and vegetables. Get the workshy cunts to pick them, or no benefits.
Open back up that nuclear plant that was closed.
The North Sea is full of oil. Let's drill it and refine it, and sell it to us at a fair price.
Brexit has been a failure,
We could be self sufficient .

We’ve always imported food, we produce just over half of our own veg. 20% of our own fruit. Recent trade deals with Australia and NZ will further reduce our agricultural sector.

Not happening and never will.

 

[Pedestrian]

We need to grow are own grain and vegetables. Get the workshy cunts to pick them, or no benefits.
Open back up that nuclear plant that was closed.
The North Sea is full of oil. Let's drill it and refine it, and sell it to us at a fair price.
Brexit has been a failure,
We could be self sufficient .

iPhones and flat screen TV’s galore.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Those folk in here saying we've serious problems and need serious people to solve them are missing the point.

All the candidates for PM are neoliberals, every one of them banging on about supply side economics.....

Supply-side economics is an economic theory that postulates tax cuts for the wealthy result in increased savings and investment capacity for them that trickle down to the overall economy. It believes in the primacy of the market so the state must be shrunk, ideally to a size comparable to that which existed before the First World War, when the state concerned itself with defence and law and order and very little else.

Deregulation and privatisation are the order of the day.

Neoliberals see competition as the defining characteristic of human relations. Neoliberalism redefines citizens as consumers, whose democratic choices are best exercised by buying and selling, a process that rewards merit and punishes inefficiency. It maintains that “the market” delivers benefits that could never be achieved by planning.

Attempts to limit competition are treated as inimical to liberty. Tax and regulation should be minimised, public services should be privatised. The organisation of labour and collective bargaining by trade unions are portrayed as market distortions that impede the formation of a natural hierarchy of winners and losers. Inequality is recast as virtuous: a reward for utility and a generator of wealth, which trickles down to enrich everyone. Efforts to create a more equal society are both counterproductive and morally corrosive. The market ensures that everyone gets what they deserve.

We internalise and reproduce this creed. The rich persuade themselves that they acquired their wealth through merit, ignoring the advantages – such as education, inheritance and class – that may have helped to secure it. The poor begin to blame themselves for their failures, even when they can do little to change their circumstances.

Never mind structural unemployment: if you don’t have a job it’s because you are unenterprising. Never mind the impossible costs of housing: if your credit card is maxed out, you’re feckless and improvident. Never mind that your children no longer have a school playing field: if they get fat, it’s your fault. In a world governed by competition, those who fall behind become defined and self-defined as losers.

Given that the Tory Party is in the grip of this ideology, it matters little who becomes Prime Minister.

Sunak is considered too left wing because his zealotry to this creed is "questionable", that would be laughable if it weren't so tragic, he's neoliberal to the core.

Right now all of us are mere bystanders. The personality, competence, sincerity, integrity of the runners and riders in this leadership contest matter little as they're all disciples of the same dogma.

When Tory grotesques like LIz Truss bang on about exploiting the advantages of Brexit, what they really mean is the advantages of unfettered neoliberalism.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

We need to grow are own grain and vegetables. Get the workshy cunts to pick them, or no benefits.
Open back up that nuclear plant that was closed.
The North Sea is full of oil. Let's drill it and refine it, and sell it to us at a fair price.
Brexit has been a failure,
We could be self sufficient .

Well at least there is one bit in there that is true and isn't just regurgitated right wing BS.

 

[crublue1]

We’ve always imported food, we produce just over half of our own veg. 20% of our own fruit. Recent trade deals with Australia and NZ will further reduce our agricultural sector.

Not happening and never will.

I know I probably live in an idealistic world, in my head, but paying farmers to not grow wheat just seems ludicrous.
To import beef when we have fantastic arable land and a perfect climate for them is nuts.
We are surrounded by oil and gas, to not use it, especially now, is economic suicide is it not?
Brexit was about independence for me, and if we had prepared properly, it would have worked.
But like I said, I'm no expert, but I feel that a bit of forward planning wouldn't have gone ammiss

 

[crublue1]

Well at least there is one bit in there that is true and isn't just regurgitated right wing BS.

I'm not right or left wing.
I just think that there could have been better plans in place for these post brexit times.
I fully admit to being an idealist, and I'm a poor armchair politician.
But I'm not alone I'm sure ;-)