It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

wolviedinho said:
Yes and that is a valid argument. I am sure pep will get it right. The only reason I would advocate Ake over Cancelo is due to the big man up front needing time. I would rather we stay compact and hard to break down while Haaland is adjusting. Cancelo can be released at the appropriate time in games or when the new players are up to speed with the system/tactic.
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Let’s help new striker settle in by getting less players near to him. Logical.
 
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Full Back Situation: As things stand the Cucurella transfer is dead in the water with neither side moving and the gap in valuation way too large. City are one week away from starting the season with only two first team squad full backs. City are now looking elsewhere with many names in the frame. One option now closed to City is David Raum who has moved to Leipzig. Bluemoon poster’s most mentioned names currently are Sosa and Nouri.

7 days to the start of our season.

The window closes 11PM on 1st September (30 days left)

I’ll post one of these most evenings around this time on this thread

You are welcome.

Please note this isn’t a summary of what is in the news, what I reckon or what will definitely happen. It’s only a summary of what is currently being discussed on the transfer forum
 
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wolviedinho said:
Let’s help him settle by getting beat and run ragged instead?
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Your argument is that we will “get beat and run ragged” playing our usual style which we should dump and adopt defensive stragegy instead.

We won’t and don’t need to.

Pep makes subtle changes (eg. Bernardo or Gundogan sitting a bit deeper to create two deeper midfielders which he might do with Phillips) but he won’t and shouldn’t reduce our forward output. Thank god.

We should hopefully increase our ability to counter when we get the chance this season but that won’t come about by “sitting back” like some suggest. That’s not possible when the opposition retreat from kick off.
 
ctwrd said:
Your argument is that we will “get beat and run ragged” playing our usual style which we should dump and adopt defensive stragegy instead.

We won’t and don’t need to.

Pep makes subtle changes (eg. Bernardo or Gundogan sitting a bit deeper to create two deeper midfielders which he might do with Phillips) but he won’t and shouldn’t reduce our forward output. Thank god.

We should hopefully increase our ability to counter when we get the chance this season but that won’t come about by “sitting back” like some suggest. That’s not possible when the opposition retreat from kick off.
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I did not say we should dump our usual style but a subtle tweak maybe needed to ensure we pick up maximum points in the first 3/4 games. The team is clearly not as sharp as other teams at this early stage.

I don’t want to see Cancelo getting done time and time again on the counter. West Ham are not Liverpool but still have players who can cause us damage if we are not at the races.

So yes I would rather we start Ake as Lb with stones, Dias and Walker. We will be a tougher team to score against. Losing a little bit of creativity in exchange for a more combative team. Foden instead of Grealish would also be welcome.
 
ctwrd said:
Your argument is that we will “get beat and run ragged” playing our usual style which we should dump and adopt defensive stragegy instead.

We won’t and don’t need to.

Pep makes subtle changes (eg. Bernardo or Gundogan sitting a bit deeper to create two deeper midfielders which he might do with Phillips) but he won’t and shouldn’t reduce our forward output. Thank god.

We should hopefully increase our ability to counter when we get the chance this season but that won’t come about by “sitting back” like some suggest. That’s not possible when the opposition retreat from kick off.
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You’re acting like putting ake at Lb is insane because it offers more defensive stability.

Get over yourself dude. That’s one of the reasons we gave to him for why we want to keep him.

Don’t act like a normal suggestion is an idiotic thought.
 
wolviedinho said:
I did not say we should dump our usual style but a subtle tweak maybe needed to ensure we pick up maximum points in the first 3/4 games. The team is clearly not as sharp as other teams at this early stage.

I don’t want to see Cancelo getting done time and time again on the counter. West Ham are not Liverpool but still have players who can cause us damage if we are not at the races.

So yes I would rather we start Ake as Lb with stones, Dias and Walker. We will be a tougher team to score against. Losing a little bit of creativity in exchange for a more combative team. Foden instead of Grealish would also be welcome.
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We won the league last year with Cancelo playing at left back the fact Zinechnko has left has only changed our options at left back it has not changed our ability. You could argue we are stronger with the other additions to the team so why would you go more defensive
 
WRicko said:
We won the league last year with Cancelo playing at left back the fact Zinechnko has left has only changed our options at left back it has not changed our ability. You could argue we are stronger with the other additions to the team so why would you go more defensive
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Based on pre season we look weak down the left side. Yes we won the league but that’s done now. Cancelo has been out of form for a while. With Haaland up front we need to protect the defence when the wingers lose the ball by cutting into a packed defence. Current city looked leggy and we don’t want an end to end game with so little match fitness.

I would rather win 0-1 at West Ham and be secure at the back. Having an out and out forward will leave us exposed. We are so used to another midfielder pressing from the front.
 
wolviedinho said:
Based on pre season we look weak down the left side. Yes we won the league but that’s done now. Cancelo has been out of form for a while. With Haaland up front we need to protect the defence when the wingers lose the ball by cutting into a packed defence. Current city looked leggy and we don’t want an end to end game with so little match fitness.

I would rather win 0-1 at West Ham and be secure at the back. Having an out and out forward will leave us exposed. We are so used to another midfielder pressing from the front.
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Cancelo had a terrible end to the season, hoping it was too many minutes but he wasn't at the races again


We seem to go into new seasons undercooked, it must be planned as keeps happening but you can't really fault the plan as it appears to work
 
glyntowen said:
Cancelo had a terrible end to the season, hoping it was too many minutes but he wasn't at the races again


We seem to go into new seasons undercooked, it must be planned as keeps happening but you can't really fault the plan as it appears to work
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Plan is a success so no complaints here. I would rather we not drop silly points this early on and that is why I advocate Ake as lb.
 
wolviedinho said:
Plan is a success so no complaints here. I would rather we not drop silly points this early on and that is why I advocate Ake as lb.
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I like Ake, shame he was injured end of last season, he would give us presence and a solid base

Bowen didn't give our defence any time last season so we will have to be on the ball or it will be another slow start
 
wolviedinho said:
Based on pre season we look weak down the left side. Yes we won the league but that’s done now. Cancelo has been out of form for a while. With Haaland up front we need to protect the defence when the wingers lose the ball by cutting into a packed defence. Current city looked leggy and we don’t want an end to end game with so little match fitness.

I would rather win 0-1 at West Ham and be secure at the back. Having an out and out forward will leave us exposed. We are so used to another midfielder pressing from the front.
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We have had Freon had a problem down the left and most clubs probably do. We are not always the best in pre season but usually end doing well. I don’t see how adding Haaland means we need a more solid defense especially at left back vs last season especially when we have had such a good transfer window
 
bell_mcfc said:
This is my worry, Cancelo & Walker burn outs because we don't have a step in. Im all for JWE getting minutes but at RB?
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Both of our full backs are beginning to concern me.

Walker relies solely on his athleticism,his technical ability is poor and his positional sense on crosses is none existent.At almost 32,we need to have a replacement lined up.

Cancelo is far too casual and selfish,his mistakes are usually very costly in terms of turnover/loss of possession. He has become more of a liabilty than an asset in recent times.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Both of our full backs are beginning to concern me.

Walker relies solely on his athleticism,his technical ability is poor and his positional sense on crosses is none existent.At almost 32,we need to have a replacement lined up.

Cancelo is far too casual and selfish,his mistakes are usually very costly in terms of turnover/loss of possession. He has become more of a liabilty than an asset in recent times.
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There was speculation earlier in the summer when Chelsea wanted Ake and Sterling that we asked for Reece James, if that was true and I think it was mentioned by T.H, the club may share your views.
 
Keeper! said:
There was speculation earlier in the summer when Chelsea wanted Ake and Sterling that we asked for Reece James, if that was true and I think it was mentioned by T.H, the club may share your views.
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Reece James is the perfect Walker replacement when time comes but we still need a back up for each side
 
richards30 said:
can`t shake the feeling the club are going to make the horrific decision to go with that we have got.
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Better than getting in somebody who isn't up to it that we don't really want. Maybe we'll either have to cough up the money for Cucurella or wait for a decent alternative to become available.
 
richards30 said:
can`t shake the feeling the club are going to make the horrific decision to go with that we have got.
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You can't shake off the feeling you know the future mate :)

Nobody knows the future, so let's see what happens. I'm optimistic. Think we'll sign a new FB, but even if we don't, we'll be fine and in January we'll find the FB we really need.

What were people saying after we failed to sign a striker last summer? And what did happen actually? We scored 150 fucking goals, that's what happened. IIRC, 150 goals is the 3rd best goal tally in the entire history of English football, the top 2 are under Pep as well.

Last season, we had the best defence in Europe. People find all kinds of problems with our defenders, yet we conceded fewer chances than Liverpool, who didn't have an injury crisis at that.

Trust in the club. Far more likely than not, we know what we are doing.
 
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