United Thread - 2022/23

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Aba452 said:
Oh she's great isn't she?!! Some breath control too.

That's 14min I won't get back but one of Alice's observations deserves greater circulation:

"John Murtough is working from 6am to 10pm? What as, a male prostitute?"

With apologies to Blackadder II, hope he knows the song about Squirry the Squirrel as they're going to need an awful lot of sixpences.

They are are deluded, make no mistake the shits are staring at the abyss and it's got a lovely inevitability about it.
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Imagine if that was your daughter. Fucking hell
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
Really good points them Foggy, he definitely was a "complete control" kind of dictator wasn't he!

He was also a remnant from a time gone by too though, when all managers ran the clubs from top to toe. In the 80s, English clubs were run the same way they probably were in the 1920s - manager ran everything. It was only as the foreign managers came in that we saw the structure of clubs change and job titles change. He got lucky that he was never had to work with DoFs etc because he had the money, the birth of the PL and he won trophies. He ran it all. Strangely, the club never saw that as a problem though but it became absolutely apparent as soon as he left what a mess the club was in. That's why Moyes shouldn't have been allowed to bring his own men in, at the expense of Fergies. You wouldn't go into Barclays Bank and sack the team below the board who've worked there for years would you?

I completely agree about the financials though. They are now going to realise how hard it was for Everton, Spurs, City, Leicester etc to get into the CL without spending a LOT of money with the right manager. It's a matter of time now till someone like Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea/Liverpool or us put in a bid for their players and that player will leave because they need to play CL football. They aren't the team they once were. It's now 10 years since they last won the league and I can't see them winning it for another 10 at the minute.

Anyone can spend money but only the right manager will get you there. At this moment, Ten Haag looks like a shocking gamble. He's going to have to earn his money, rapid. I don't remember a manager at a 'top club' getting off to such a bad, bad start as this. It's almost as if the players think he is a bigger bell end than Rangnick!

Anyone who watched that yesterday couldn't help but be reminded of us in the 90s. At least we usually had some hope after a couple of games mind!
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I have to say — I looked at his refusal to pull De Gea after that first half display (he was 100 pct at fault for the first two goals, and I thought wasn’t very good on the other two) as a sign of weakness. The match was lost; it would have sent a stern message that thoughtless mistakes aren’t to be tolerated. Have to believe Pep pulled Foden after 1H cuz he didn’t square it to Haaland on that one play. That was just one mistake in a game we were dominating. Now I could be completely off base about reasoning, thought process or the message — I am no manager. But if I’m right you couldn’t see a greater distinction.
 
Blueknows said:
Remember when the rag fans and media questioned whether Peps tika taka football would work in the prem
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Yes, if by questioned, you mean “absolutely stated definitively” that it WOULDN’T work. As I recall, a certain fat bearded fuck said Pep would be ridden by Eddie Howe and torn to pieces when we started Ferny in the middle.
 
abu13 said:
I thought it would try to look at the ownersip issue from their perspective.
What do they actually want?
Somone with at least 4-6 billion to buy the club.
Someone who is then going to invest more money fixing up the stadium.
Someone to invest even more money in the playing staff to make them competetive again.
Someone who understands the "United way"

Sounds reasonable however they have some conditions as they are the moral compass in all that is right and good,

This new owner must not buy the club with a leveraged buyout.
must not take any dividends from the club.
Must not be associated with any human rights issue.
must not be funded by monies derived from the oil or petrol industries.
Must not be Russian.
Must not be Chinese
Must not be from the middle east.
Must be prepared to invest their own money into the club.
Must be prepared to have protests and marches if they lose a game.
Must be prepared to be slagged off in the media by former club "legends"
Must be prepared to change managers as and when the fans get restless.
Must be prepared to outbid City for any player.
Must be prepared to be slagged off for outbidding City for said player a few months later.
Must be prepared to have games postponed if the fans get emotional and think they may lose.

I am sure i have missed other obvious conditions out so plwase feel free to add.

So in short a quite specific type of owner in mind, sounds simple enough to find otherwise why all the pressure to get rid of the Glazers
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Fucking brilliant post that.
 
This story about flat erik having them run nearly 15 km today is pure amateur hour gold. Isn't he supposed to be well respected? Let's punish the team for being shit by running them into the ground the day after a game and cause a handful of injuries. Long may the circus continue.
 
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Spanishbob said:
Many years ago back in Sale I use to frequent a drinking establishment in Ashton on Mersey called The Buck. Now this said pub was full of rags and only an handful of gods own. Anyway it use to have a vault which was always pretty lively back then and decided to pop in there from the lounge to see my mate(a blue) and was given a birthday card by a rag which I opened and it said “Happy 21st Bertie blue nose”. Shortly after that banner went up at the stretford end. So my take on this is when it becomes apparent those red twats are winning nothing in the foreseeable future I want a banner like there’s but on our main screens at the ethihad. I’m not a childish vindictive type of fella but fuck the rag twats.
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Even though I agree ...we're better than that
 
abu13 said:
I thought it would try to look at the ownersip issue from their perspective.
What do they actually want?
Somone with at least 4-6 billion to buy the club.
Someone who is then going to invest more money fixing up the stadium.
Someone to invest even more money in the playing staff to make them competetive again.
Someone who understands the "United way"

Sounds reasonable however they have some conditions as they are the moral compass in all that is right and good,

This new owner must not buy the club with a leveraged buyout.
must not take any dividends from the club.
Must not be associated with any human rights issue.
must not be funded by monies derived from the oil or petrol industries.
Must not be Russian.
Must not be Chinese
Must not be from the middle east.
Must be prepared to invest their own money into the club.
Must be prepared to have protests and marches if they lose a game.
Must be prepared to be slagged off in the media by former club "legends"
Must be prepared to change managers as and when the fans get restless.
Must be prepared to outbid City for any player.
Must be prepared to be slagged off for outbidding City for said player a few months later.
Must be prepared to have games postponed if the fans get emotional and think they may lose.

I am sure i have missed other obvious conditions out so plwase feel free to add.

So in short a quite specific type of owner in mind, sounds simple enough to find otherwise why all the pressure to get rid of the Glazers
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Excellent summary mate.
Enjoyed that!
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
This, more than anything else, explains their downfall.

Fergie was getting on and they should've handled him leaving far better. In fact, it's hard to think of a worse way to do it. The new man should've come in and worked with him and got to know the culture of the club. This was a fairly unique club in that he ran the place, top to toe whereas everyone now had Directors of Football etc in place.

Moyes came in and got rid of many of their staff and brought in his own men. I can understand why he would want his own men in, but he should've kept them on for their experience. It really showed his naievity, he wasn't a Mourinho/Guardiola/Ancelotti who had a track record of success. At this point now, the 'Fergie United' had gone and by the time van Gaal had got rid of Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Welbeck, Evans, Hernandez etc it makes you wonder if there was any part of it left. Other than the pisscan turning up to see them get beat and booed at home, his dynasty had completely gone.

Mourinho's character and style was well known and he did well there. His style of football was at odds with van Gaal, Moyes and Fergies. He came and went then Ole comes in who's counter attacking, looser style of play was again at odds with Mourinho's style. Ten Haag wants to play like us, but he's got a squad of players who aren't suited to his style.

Contrast that with us and Pep. When he came in, half the squad could adapt to his style and the players who couldn't went fast and were replaced by ones who played his style. The club now is the best run club in world football. When Pep goes, the next manager who comes in won't be Simeone etc it will be someone who plays the way that Pep, Soriano and Bergistrain play. I really don't understand why they aren't trying to copy what we do!
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I think one thing that often gets overlooked from the time old red nose left is that Gill went at the same time too. It left a complete power vacuum that was subsequently filled with incompetents. If he'd stayed on another year to aid in the transition I doubt they'd be in quite such a mess now. Easy to speculate of course but it certainly wouldn't of helped. It's another thing that can be laid at Ferguson's door though as he elected to stay on a bit longer to put us back in our place. If he'd gone when he originally said he was going to then they would have had that transition period.
 
ninjamonkey said:
This story about flat erik having them run nearly 15 km today is pure amateur hour gold. Isn't he supposed to be well respected? Let's punish the team for being shit by running them into the ground the day after a game and cause a handleful of injuries. Long may the circus continue.
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No doubt that will have endeared Ten Haaaaaaargh to the players that bit more.
Twat thing to do.
Their confidence is shot.
It’s the v last thing those players need.

Fucking brilliant this…
 
Brendan110_0 said:
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Sounds familiar
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They don't know what rock bottom is like. Fuck the absolute fucking lot of them. Funnily enough I was 9 when some older rag **** came on the field near our house and kicked the shit out of me because I had my City shirt on. Imagine having to go home to your mum and tell her some **** has broken your nose because you don't support that shite.

I truly fucking detest them and my hatred of them cuts deep. I'd honestly celebrate them going down like I celebrated Sergios winner.

I want them to fucking suffer then go bust on the day I die.
 
I see Tent Peg had them in for an 8 mile jog on a Sunday, CRnearly40 will love him for that. :)
I kinda feel the poor sod has already lost the dressing room and will be leaving in a few weeks (shame).
Imagine Slabbo the fucking pit pony running 8 miles on a stinking hot day.
Maybe they're hoping for 11 transfer requests, although Phil Jones will probably stay :)

Comedy gold this, City fans should be lapping it up (and we are)!!
 
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As funny as Uniteds demise is there are of course plently of lessons for City to take note of. Pep is as big to City as fergie was to them and one day he will go and that will be a very sad day and uncertain time for the club. Hopefully City have a plan in place for what will be a difficult transition.
 
tommy116 said:
As funny as Uniteds demise is there are of course plently of lessons for City to take note of. Pep is as big to City as fergie was to them and one day he will go and that will be a very sad day and uncertain time for the club. Hopefully City have a plan in place for what will be a difficult transition.
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Yep. We won't be giving it to David Moyes.
 
tommy116 said:
As funny as Uniteds demise is there are of course plently of lessons for City to take note of. Pep is as big to City as fergie was to them and one day he will go and that will be a very sad day and uncertain time for the club. Hopefully City have a plan in place for what will be a difficult transition.
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I don't believe that's necessarily true, we won the league and cups with Pellers and Mancini the rags only winner after Busby was baconface.
 
tommy116 said:
As funny as Uniteds demise is there are of course plently of lessons for City to take note of. Pep is as big to City as fergie was to them and one day he will go and that will be a very sad day and uncertain time for the club. Hopefully City have a plan in place for what will be a difficult transition.
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Difference being that Pep won’t hang around like a wart on the end of a limp cock.
 
abu13 said:
I thought it would try to look at the ownersip issue from their perspective.
What do they actually want?
Somone with at least 4-6 billion to buy the club.
Someone who is then going to invest more money fixing up the stadium.
Someone to invest even more money in the playing staff to make them competetive again.
Someone who understands the "United way"

Sounds reasonable however they have some conditions as they are the moral compass in all that is right and good,

This new owner must not buy the club with a leveraged buyout.
must not take any dividends from the club.
Must not be associated with any human rights issue.
must not be funded by monies derived from the oil or petrol industries.
Must not be Russian.
Must not be Chinese
Must not be from the middle east.
Must be prepared to invest their own money into the club.
Must be prepared to have protests and marches if they lose a game.
Must be prepared to be slagged off in the media by former club "legends"
Must be prepared to change managers as and when the fans get restless.
Must be prepared to outbid City for any player.
Must be prepared to be slagged off for outbidding City for said player a few months later.
Must be prepared to have games postponed if the fans get emotional and think they may lose.

I am sure i have missed other obvious conditions out so plwase feel free to add.

So in short a quite specific type of owner in mind, sounds simple enough to find otherwise why all the pressure to get rid of the Glazers
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Basically Trotters Independent Trading
 
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