It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

Fordyboy46 said:
I'm sure we had a minus net spend last season as well, Grealish was the only signing for 100m but I think we recouped 109m. The transfer strategy is definitely changing at City and it must be ffp related. Other clubs in the prem must be very close to being done re ffp, some of the spending is pretty reckless and the clubs aren't really selling to buy
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Apparently Arsenal have been placed on UEFA's FFP watch list...
 
waspish said:
Worse case scenario for these clubs is the negotiate a settlement fee and they carry on with it being a first time offence! The way we got treated was a fcuking disgrace
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With what's happening at Barça & with Chelsea utilising the amended rule that new owners can spend what they like for 3 seasons during an accelerated investment period, I think we can safely assume FFP is dead for everyone else bar City.

After all, it was originally conceived, designed & constructed to stop City with the other clubs getting caught up in a web of their own spinning.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
This small squad will I think come back to bite us on the arse.
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Yep, I agree, its going to fuck our season right up. There are some very good players up for grabs in this transfer window but for some reason we're just ignoring them, I don't know why, it's not as if we're skint, I thought were in the black.
Like you say I think it will cost us this season I'm not expecting much in the way of silverware that's for sure.
 
The big difference with the timing if the World Cup this year is that normally the tournament is done before the summer transfer window gets going. So players move after the squads are finalised. Some get moves on foot of the tournament but the key is that World Cup doesn’t really negatively effect the transfer market other than make logistics of transfer more awkward.

As the World Cup is later some players may have preferred to stay put in the summer to minimise disruption and keep their place in their international squad. Once the tournament is over players may be happier to move. As a result January may be a little busier than normal.
 
Tangled up in blue. said:
Yep, I agree, its going to fuck our season right up. There are some very good players up for grabs in this transfer window but for some reason we're just ignoring them, I don't know why, it's not as if we're skint, I thought were in the black.
Like you say I think it will cost us this season I'm not expecting much in the way of silverware that's for sure.
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Yawn
 
Plagued by injuries already. Ake and Laporte out, Philips out and possibly Grealish. Imo we need another centre half at least as lets not forget Stones is also a bit injury prone.
 
BrianW said:
I wonder if the plan is to drop out of the League Cup and FA Cup and focus on PL and CL.
I doubt we have the players to do all four. We have some promising youngsters, but not even Palmer is ready to play every week.
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Why?

No need to do this, we should take seriously every competition if we want to still maintain to be an ambitious club status.

The moment we start half assed one of the competition is the moment of our downfall.
 
Kamaro011 said:
Why?

No need to do this, we should take seriously every competition if we want to still maintain to be an ambitious club status.

The moment we start half assed one of the competition is the moment of our downfall.
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Why? Because we have the smallest senior squad in the PL and this is going to be a particularly awkward season because of the WC. For a start, we have weeks of wall-to-wall CL group stage games. It will be a season like no other.

I don't know, because I don't run the club, but I am just speculating they may be thinking that way.

If it turns out we have enough players to go for all four without any issues, great. I'll be delighted.
 
BrianW said:
Why? Because we have the smallest senior squad in the PL and this is going to be a particularly awkward season because of the WC. For a start, we have weeks of wall-to-wall CL group stage games. It will be a season like no other.

I don't know, because I don't run the club, but I am just speculating they may be thinking that way.

If it turns out we have enough players to go for all four without any issues, great. I'll be delighted.
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I will be pissed if our club started half assing one of the competition, yeah i get it we will not putting our best player in each of every match we participated off on weekly basis. But that doesn't mean we are not going trying hard to do our best in this minor competition even we are using second string and academy player to do it.

The reason of why we have such world class team is because we pushed and fight for every competition each season, we treating all of it as the same respect because we are very ambitious club that wants win every title on daily basis and will not lower our standards just because we have small senior squad.

An average normal fan will never get this but our club from it's owner down to the player is very ambitious and have a high standard for themselves. Of course they will try hard to win everything every season no matter the circumstances, that's why i like from our club it's to never compromise our standards regarding this.
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
Plagued by injuries already. Ake and Laporte out, Philips out and possibly Grealish. Imo we need another centre half at least as lets not forget Stones is also a bit injury prone.
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Go into the season with 5 CB? Our CB situation is perfect as it is. Injuries are the reason why we have 4 and not 3. Ake/Laporte will be back soon as well. Can't be buying players for an injury for a couple of weeks.
Also I thought that Grealish is fit for the weekend?
 
kupest said:
Go into the season with 5 CB? Our CB situation is perfect as it is. Injuries are the reason why we have 4 and not 3. Ake/Laporte will be back soon as well. Can't be buying players for an injury for a couple of weeks.
Also I thought that Grealish is fit for the weekend?
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OK at least another Left back then, or do you also think we have lots of cover there aswel.
 
Five CBs is excessive but only because you expect at least one senior DM / fullback to be able to cover if four isn't enough... and I reckon you'd probably want a half decent youngster kicking around as well.

Right now, Rodri is barely in the picture as cover because Philips is injured, and Walker is the only RB until Gomez proves he is ready, which remains an if. I don't doubt his technique, but he's clearly being asked to step up physically.

That's with one injury in midfield.

I see four potential open slots in this squad.

A winger with pace. Like: Leao.
A senior LB who won't get bullied and can play. Like: Lodi
A central player, quite possible another ball carrier as KDB is so far up and we are playing much more of the pitch at once. Like: De Jong
The fourth is a suitable RB, with some of Kyle's physical attributes, but younger or more technical.

Now, if we go on to sell Bernie, my clear opinion is we would need two of the first three to make it safe.

If we keep him, the priorities are less clear to me, but I think a utility RB stopgap / long-term Kyle replacement would solve several issues - even if some are only potential issues, it's already too close for comfort.

We should stop here, and remember we sold our experienced LB. In addition, we sold Lavia (DM/CB) to a prem club, Porro and Kabore (both RB) to sides in today's CL draw. Those are the players who - in addition to Cucurella - would make this situation safe. I'm not saying we were wrong to let them leave. I am saying tho, those decisions contribute to why we feel under pressure right now. And it's the same with incomings, Philips injury is recurrant, and Gomez is being asked to step up.

My feeling is clear, this one is on the board. Haaland changes so many things for this club. I don't think tho, that excuses them from the obligation to provide the manager with a squad of sufficient depth.
 
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Summerbuzz said:
Five CBs is excessive but only because you expect at least one senior DM / fullback to be able to cover if four isn't enough... and I reckon you'd probably want a half decent youngster kicking around as well.

Right now, Rodri is barely in the picture as cover because Philips is injured, and Walker is the only RB until Gomez proves he is ready, which remains an if. I don't doubt his technique, but he's clearly being asked to step up physically.

That's with one injury in midfield.

I see four potential open slots in this squad.

A winger with pace. Like: Leao.
A senior LB who won't get bullied and can play. Like: Lodi
A central player, quite possible another ball carrier as KDB is so far up and we are playing much more of the pitch at once. Like: De Jong
The fourth is a suitable RB, with some of Kyle's physical attributes, but younger or more technical.

Now, if we go on to sell Bernie, my clear opinion is we would need two of the first three to make it safe.

If we keep him, the priorities are less clear to me, but I think a utility RB stopgap / long-term Kyle replacement would solve several issues - even if some are only potential issues, it's already too close for comfort.

We should stop here, and remember we sold our experienced LB. In addition, we sold Lavia (DM/CB) to a prem club, Porro and Kabore (both RB) to sides in today's CL draw. Those are the players who - in addition to Cucurella - would make this situation safe. I'm not saying we were wrong to let them leave. I am saying tho, those decisions contribute to why we feel under pressure right now. And it's the same with incomings, Philips injury is recurrant, and Gomez is being asked to step up.

My feeling is clear, this one is on the board. Haaland changes so many things for this club. I don't think tho, that excuses them from the obligation to provide the manager with a squad of sufficient depth.
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That's why this one in, one out was a baffling transfer strategy this summer, especially when you see teams signing players for fun without selling . Still leaves us very short on numbers
 
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