Gas & Electricity

[Scottyboi]

Back in the 70s my old man used to do this. He'd lay the meter on its side on top of paint can. He'd also slow the revolving disc down in the leccy meter using thin photo negatives and sellotape.

Mate of mines photo negative fell into the meter so he had to smash it up hahaha. Cutting a plastic bottle up to the same size is much better.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I hope so pal. I hope that’s what happens.

People will have a stark choice mate.

It’ll be either pay the mortgage/rent or the energy bill.

Not going to be the energy bill is it?

 

[The Northern Baptist]

Good luck with that when it’s -3 in the gaff and you’re that cold your cock disappears.

You think I’m arsed about that given what Ukrainians are going through? Behave yourself, young man.

 

[metalblue]

Source for that last paragraph?

Apologies. I stand corrected, they were paying about £0.16p per KWh equivalent. I had in my head it was more. So it’s much more expensive now. Right where is the protests….Down with the government ;)

 

[meltonblue]

Apologies. I stand corrected, they were paying about £0.16p per KWh equivalent. I had in my head it was more. So it’s much more expensive now. Right where is the protests….Down with the government ;)

I read the other day that the shock of the rises is expected to be five times worse than the seventies.

Bear in mind there’s a significant difference in energy consumption too so even price per kw isn’t really a comparable when it comes to percentage of earnings spent.

 

[metalblue]

I read the other day that the shock of the rises is expected to be five times worse than the seventies.

Bear in mind there’s a significant difference in energy consumption too so even price per kw isn’t really a comparable when it comes to percentage of earnings spent.

That’s true, we use more energy these days. The 70s oil shock was just oil. This is everything we use.

Honestly I don’t know how people are going to afford it. This is probably got a most to their limit and many beyond. I don’t think we can rely on the government to fund it - it’s simply not practical long term. We need to reduce consumption and energy companies need to do their bit by spreading these costs over the next few years. Anything else the government does will be welcome, Truss won’t do fuck all extra worth a candle I doubt - she’s not socially aware enough.

 

[PPT]

And folks, please remember...

The fuel price cap is the MAXIMUM your supplier can charge. They don't actually have to charge that much so register your disgust at profiteering every chance you get.

Oh, and if someone tells you the French are keeping prices down, that's because EDF can put them up here to compensate.

That's because EDF is 84% owned by the French government (and it plans to buy the remaining 16% shortly) so its effectively nationalised. That's what should happen with the utility companies heres. Nationalise them so they are effectively non-profit making entities. The only problem with that is would you trust any political party in the UK to do it and not make a complete balls up of it? I wouldn't.

 

[Dirty Harry]

I am on the old meters but was going to upgrade to smart. Do you need to be on an old one to do this?

Yes you should be ok mate, a smart meter they can just do it from their end, which is why I said the letter was misleading, they said I didn’t have to do anything, it would all be done automatically, as I work in the industry I knew it was bollocks for my meter, they knew exactly what they were doing, they just didn’t want people going out pre-loading and getting it cheaper on the old rate.

 

[remember arthur mann]

The only problem with that is would you trust any political party in the UK to do it and not make a complete balls up of it? I wouldn't.

Lol, don't give me that old chestnut, that's how we got in this shit in the first place. All this cock and bull about how efficient privatisation would make Utilities, it's a fookin shambles but the arseholes who gave you all this bullshit have made a nice butty. I'd stick them all on the end of a rope.

 

[marco]

some shit is going in the log burner this winter,never mind pre dried logs at £3.50 a bag, do car tyres burn anyone?

 

[west didsblue]

That’s true, we use more energy these days. The 70s oil shock was just oil. This is everything we use.

Honestly I don’t know how people are going to afford it. This is probably got a most to their limit and many beyond. I don’t think we can rely on the government to fund it - it’s simply not practical long term. We need to reduce consumption and energy companies need to do their bit by spreading these costs over the next few years. Anything else the government does will be welcome, Truss won’t do fuck all extra worth a candle I doubt - she’s not socially aware enough.

People won't be able to afford it full stop. People paying rent have seen rent go up way above inflation over the last 3 or 4 years. People with mortgages are about to see mortgage rates go up with interest rates. Food costs are going up because production and transportation costs are increasing due to the cost of fuel and increased payroll costs. Petrol/Diesel is 60% up (even if it's thankfully down from its peak). And that's ignoring the additional red tape costs on imports due to Brexit. Even relatively affluent people with big houses aren't going to find it particularly easy when their annual energy bills hit 5 figures. People with high incomes living in energy efficient modern flats that they own outright will be fine but just about everyone else will be screwed to some extent.

 

[marco]

People will have a stark choice mate.

It’ll be either pay the mortgage/rent or the energy bill.

Not going to be the energy bill is it?

im looking at holding out untill around the end of November after that they can do what they like- cut me off take me to court its there choice couldnt give a shit,they can trash my credit score no problem dont need any more mortgages or loans as im coming up for retirement,but if they go down that road i may as well max out my credit cards and go out with a big bang

 

[PPT]

Lol, don't give me that old chestnut, that's how we got in this shit in the first place. All this cock and bull about how efficient privatisation would make Utilities, it's a fookin shambles but the arseholes who gave you all this bullshit have made a nice butty. I'd stick them all on the end of a rope.

I wouldn't trust any of them to run a piss up in the proverbial brewery. I really wouldn't. Don't care what party it is.

 

[Stoned Rose]

You think I’m arsed about that given what Ukrainians are going through? Behave yourself, young man.

Let a few move in with you, you could freeze to death together.

 

[Stoned Rose]

That's because EDF is 84% owned by the French government (and it plans to buy the remaining 16% shortly) so its effectively nationalised. That's what should happen with the utility companies heres. Nationalise them so they are effectively non-profit making entities. The only problem with that is would you trust any political party in the UK to do it and not make a complete balls up of it? I wouldn't.

I wouldn’t trust any of them to make a cup of tea properly.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Those going on about smart meters, load of shite our electric one hasn’t worked properly since they installed it in June by EDF, contacted them numerous times, after price increase I’m going to tell them unless it’s fixed then I will do a reading each month and they can bill me, I will pay by cheque.

 

[remember arthur mann]

I wouldn't trust any of them to run a piss up in the proverbial brewery. I really wouldn't. Don't care what party it is.

Can't do any worse than these wankers.

 

[Kevinblue10]

People won't be able to afford it full stop. People paying rent have seen rent go up way above inflation over the last 3 or 4 years. People with mortgages are about to see mortgage rates go up with interest rates. Food costs are going up because production and transportation costs are increasing due to the cost of fuel and increased payroll costs. Petrol/Diesel is 60% up (even if it's thankfully down from its peak). And that's ignoring the additional red tape costs on imports due to Brexit. Even relatively affluent people with big houses aren't going to find it particularly easy when their annual energy bills hit 5 figures. People with high incomes living in energy efficient modern flats that they own outright will be fine but just about everyone else will be screwed to some extent.

Maybe that will be the long term solution mate...most people move to small energy efficient flats...maybe owning your own home will become a thing of the past

 

[Mr Blue Moon]

Time for the world governments to stop fucking about and for them to task the scientific and engineering world to sort out nuclear fusion.
It worked with JFK and putting the man on the moon

 

[KS55]

This is true but they've still doubled their profit amount even though the % is really low

Yes. The retailers say that their previous profit margin of 2/3% was artificially low. 5% is reasonable imho.
SMEs, however get it in the neck. Mad.