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SJT said:
the only people that defend these ludicrous salaries work/have ties to a similar situation within public sector - end of.
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Well that’s that then, you’ve said end of.

It’s just a shame that you’ve not answered my or anyone else’s questions.

Instead of randomly blaming the public sector, how would you fix the issue of crippling fuel costs that will put most businesses out of business by Easter?
 
SJT said:
So, the selfish strands of the 'public sector' who are striking or intend to to for more money, because let's face it - who else goes on strike or can afford to beside the public sector?

The public sector expects the general public to pay more tax to cover the inflation rises?

So, the so called educated among us - for example the ‘teachers’ etc...simply can't work out that the general public mathematically can’t pay a 300% energy price hike, ON TOP of soaring fuel food etc? and THEN pay their salary rises on top of that.

Yes they CAN WORK OUT the public can’t afford this, of course they can! - they just don’t give a flying fuck - teachers want a 3 day working week? for steady good salaries, ludicrous holidays and iron clad pensions - society doesn’t work. privatise everything. All in or none.

This winter and upcoming year/years is going to be carnage.
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Current, recent and likely future strikes.
Railways? Private sector
Post Office? Private sector
BT? Private sector.
Openreach? Private sector.
Container Ports? Private sector.
Airport Staff? Private sector.
Airline Pilots? Private sector.
Journalists at Reach publications? Private sector.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
These costs have zero effect on the prices to come.

It‘s a similar argument to suggest Nottingham Forest are spending too much. Haven’t they seen that the price of fuel is going up dramatically?

Thats not relevant either.
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So, its ok for public sector strikes to go ahead - and for the government to cave in, and pay more money to public sector workers - answer this! - the public sector salaries come from the government - which in turn tax the population. Are you dumb?
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Current, recent and likely future strikes.
Railways? Private sector
Post Office? Private sector
BT? Private sector.
Openreach? Private sector.
Container Ports? Private sector.
Airport Staff? Private sector.
Airline Pilots? Private sector.
Journalists at Reach publications? Private sector.
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Don’t forget the barristers.

SJT is probably most annoyed that they are striking. He can’t get a coffee in the morning. Seems to make him grumpy and illogical.
 
SJT said:
So, its ok for public sector strikes to go ahead - and for the government to cave in, and pay more money to public sector workers - answer this! - the public sector salaries come from the government - which in turn tax the population. Are you dumb?
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Which public sector workers are on strike currently?

What has taxing the public sector got to do with anything?

Are you ok?
 
SJT said:
I realise that carbon zero and the Ukrainian war is the main reason for price hike - and WE ALL need to pull our belts in - the public sector included. they can not have pay rises, some people are blind to that.
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Pull our belts in..lol

Did you sleep through the last decade of austerity? Pay is flatter than at any time in recorded history, my own pay saw a real terms 20% cut over that decade all for a political ideology, and yes it was in the public service. For many people there is no more cloth to cut.
 
SJT said:
So this was in 2015 - is this acceptable to you?
www.bbc.co.uk

Fifty thousand NHS staff earn 'at least £100,000'

There are more than 50,000 people in the NHS who earned more than £100,000 in 2013-14, an investigation by the Taxpayers' Alliance and Daily Mail shows.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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So because one of the bosses at my trust earned that (one that I've never heard, seen or spoken too btw) I can get to fuck on my salary... Or the domestics & porters can piss off on their just about national living wage...

I do however, disagree with an earlier post on here asking for a properly funded NHS... I would like to work for an NHS that doesn't piss money down the drain... But that's a different argument.
 
SJT said:
So this was in 2015 - is this acceptable to you?
www.bbc.co.uk

Fifty thousand NHS staff earn 'at least £100,000'

There are more than 50,000 people in the NHS who earned more than £100,000 in 2013-14, an investigation by the Taxpayers' Alliance and Daily Mail shows.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Does that mean we have 50 thousand chiefs in highly paid positions and not enough Nurses and doctors porters and other staff to run the NHS
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Does that mean we have 50 thousand chiefs in highly paid positions and not enough Nurses and doctors porters and other staff to run the NHS
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In reality over 90% of the 50,000 are in senior clinical roles (consultants etc.) many of whom could earn a lot more in the private sector.

The report was put together by the Taxpayers Alliance which is a right wing think tank and the Daily Mail. Wonder what their motivation was?
 
The problem is, when the economy is doing well and the private sector is getting huge wedges, no one thinks the public sector should share the bounty. They are told to be grateful for rises that match inflation. But when things are bad, and inflation is high, successive governments have used the public sector as an economic tool by holding their rises to an artificially low level. Over time, this builds up obvious pressures.

But as has been said, almost all current strikers are private sector workers! There's just a blockage in some people's brains that persuades them any striker must be public sector. It's almost as if the Daily Mail's lying propaganda works.(Also an amazing number of people think Russia is still Communist, despite the existence, until very recently, of the Conservative Friends of Russia.)
 
BrianW said:
The problem is, when the economy is doing well and the private sector is getting huge wedges, no one thinks the public sector should share the bounty. They are told to be grateful for rises that match inflation. But when things are bad, and inflation is high, successive governments have used the public sector as an economic tool by holding their rises to an artificially low level. Over time, this builds up obvious pressures.

But as has been said, almost all current strikers are private sector workers! There's just a blockage in some people's brains that persuades them any striker must be public sector. It's almost as if the Daily Mail's lying propaganda works.(Also an amazing number of people think Russia is still Communist, despite the existence, until very recently, of the Conservative Friends of Russia.)
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Funnily enough, the founder of the Taxpayers Alliance who did the report into high paid NHS workers is the same person who founded the Conservative Friends of Russia. Unsurprisingly he was also a leading Brexiteer.
 
It's amazing how things get bent out of shape - my initial point was, with all this austerity/misery/ludicrous bills
-the public sector can ill afford to ask for wage rises, there’s no money to pay them. Simple.

I fully expect public sector workers to not give a fuck about the rest of us. It has always been thus.

Public sector pay-rises don’t come from a magic tree the government has, they have to tax the rest of us...and I’m skint. Sorry. proper fuckin bread line skint.
 
west didsblue said:
In reality over 90% of the 50,000 are in senior clinical roles (consultants etc.) many of whom could earn a lot more in the private sector.
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And I wonder how many of them were pushed over 100k by having to work overtime because of staffing shortages. Hell, they even included people's redundancy payments in the list. "Look at all the people (who've since been fired) who are earning over 100k." A study by a shady organisation that claims to have represent the British taxpayers, but no-one actually knows who they represent, because they refuse to disclose who funds them.
 
Blackley_Blue said:
So because one of the bosses at my trust earned that (one that I've never heard, seen or spoken too btw) I can get to fuck on my salary... Or the domestics & porters can piss off on their just about national living wage...

I do however, disagree with an earlier post on here asking for a properly funded NHS... I would like to work for an NHS that doesn't piss money down the drain... But that's a different argument.
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No, my point is there’s too many idiots overpaid there - too many bean-counters and admin. not the general staff etc...
 
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