Gas & Electricity

M18CTID said:
Looking at what many businesses are facing, they'll need to stick their prices up to £25+ a pint, and no-one is paying that. If you thing the energy price rises so far have been bad, then it pales into insignificance compared to what's round the corner. Price caps not applying to businesses is going to fucking destroy many of them, particularly smaller businesses and those in the hospitality sector where many of them basically survive hand to mouth.
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4 pints of Morreti please.

That will be £100.

Here's 125 get yourself one.
 
A family I know have just announced they are having to close their restaurant due to a £13k increase in their energy bills and huge increases in cost of ingredients.
 
Scottyboi said:
A sandwich shop getting energy quotes for 6k a month can hardly try selling you a buttie for £20 can they. Jesus some ignorance in this post.
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I'm not targeting small sandwich shops and sole traders.

I'm stating that since January, we as consumers have paid more to cover their increasing energy costs. If a reasonable cap is implemented then businesses need to stop being margin hungry as this will come back to bite them.
 
M18CTID said:
Looking at what many businesses are facing, pubs will need to stick their prices up to £25+ a pint, and no-one is paying that. If you thing the energy price rises so far have been bad, then it pales into insignificance compared to what's round the corner. Price caps not applying to businesses is going to fucking destroy many of them, particularly smaller businesses and those in the hospitality sector where many of them basically survive hand to mouth.
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If the government don't intervene, I can't imagine any pub or restaurant will be able to afford to trade, and half of their customers wouldn't be able to afford to go out anyway. We're not heading for a recession we're heading for a 30s style depression unless the government has some serious plans to get us out of this. Even Truss should be able to see that a penny off tax or abandoning the NI rise isn't even going to touch the sides.
 
meltonblue said:
Around 100k. I was asking you as personally I’d advocate for a higher rate of income tax in the upper thresholds. Given you said you were skint, that I assume wouldn’t impact you and yet you’d get better public services.

Well, assuming the government doesn’t continue to spaff shedloads up the wall and spend considerable amounts on highly dubious contracts…
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100k eh, public sector then - give some of that to the next guy you pass at the lights. he might need some food.
 
SJT said:
100k eh, public sector then - give some of that to the next guy you pass at the lights. he might need some food.
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Never worked in the public sector, I’d earn considerably less if I did. I said in that post I’m an advocate of an increase in the higher rate of income tax, both for the threshold I’m in and the additional rate.

That’s why I asked you what you’re situation is, as if you’re against any tax rises, is that for everyone? And everything?
 
meltonblue said:
Never worked in the public sector, I’d earn considerably less if I did. I said in that post I’m an advocate of an increase in the higher rate of income tax, both for the threshold I’m in and the additional rate.

That’s why I asked you what you’re situation is, as if you’re against any tax rises, is that for everyone? And everything?
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No, what’s really wierd is, if you’re on 100k why you so bothered about fuel bills? - the topic of this thread, Oh, That's right! you're all about helping your fellow man - do me a favour, please!
 
SJT said:
No, what’s really wierd is, if you’re on 100k why you so bothered about fuel bills? - the topic of this thread, Oh, That's right! you're all about helping your fellow man - do me a favour, please!
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Weren't you just moaning about society being selfish? And now someone is saying they are happy to pay more tax and help out those less fortunate its weird.
 
Society is more selfish than it used to be because of 40-odd years of selfish, Thatcherite individualism. The attitude is, fuck you, Jack, I'm all right. Why should I pay towards the collective good?

Foster that for forty-odd years and then wonder why people put themselves first. I'm surprised people are as altruistic as they are, especially when they see Tory cronies stealing millions from the public purse. But that's OK of course because the Tory cronies aren't the despised public sector workers.

Put these in order of value to society:

a) A nurse.
b) Someone who arranges for the nurse to be paid.
c) Some cnut who rings me up trying to persuade me to change my broadband or insurance.

According to many, only 'c' is a productive worker. The other two are a drain on the workers. I say, fuck that! And fuck the horse it rode in on.
 
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