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DorisBlue said:
He has played well so far but its been 4 games. He will still make mistakes and when he does he needs to carry on playing. He would never get that here. Keeping him would have been wrong for him and hence for us
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I think we'll be keeping a very close eye on his form, and as City fans we shopuld be keen for him to do well there, in 12 months time we might want him back, if he has proved himself, and we might then be in a position to offer him good game time.

The level we are at means he wouldn't have got this playing time here, and him being sat in the EDS (now effectively U21) would have been pointless.
 
cleavers said:
I think we'll be keeping a very close eye on his form, and as City fans we shopuld be keen for him to do well there, in 12 months time we might want him back, if he has proved himself, and we might then be in a position to offer him good game time.

The level we are at means he wouldn't have got this playing time here, and him being sat in the EDS (now effectively U21) would have been pointless.
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I think the point a few are making,myself included....is that he should have been given a chance here,instead of going out and spending 45m on a player that is no better.
It was clear as day that the kid had the ability and maturity to make the step up,hence why Saints recognised that and couldn't wait to give us a few quid for him.

He will be snapped up by one of or rivals unfortunately,as they will not have 2 players in their prime already on their books.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I think the point a few are making,myself included....is that he should have been given a chance here,instead of going out and spending 45m on a player that is no better.
It was clear as day that the kid had the ability and maturity to make the step up,hence why Saints recognised that and couldn't wait to give us a few quid for him.

He will be snapped up by one of or rivals unfortunately,as they will not have 2 players in their prime already on their books.
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Lets wait and see what happens, it's very early days, on both counts.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I think the point a few are making,myself included....is that he should have been given a chance here,instead of going out and spending 45m on a player that is no better.
It was clear as day that the kid had the ability and maturity to make the step up,hence why Saints recognised that and couldn't wait to give us a few quid for him.

He will be snapped up by one of or rivals unfortunately,as they will not have 2 players in their prime already on their books.
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I think what's more frustrating from my POV is that he obviously didn't become a good premier league player overnight some point in July.

He was good enough to do this in February, March, April when we were running a thin squad into the ground. He could have come on for 20-30 minute cameos and taken some of the load off.

And then Pep would have had a better idea of if he needed Phillips, or at the very least, we could have had a stronger hand in negotiations with Southampton, and the kid would have greater attachment to the club and fans and be even more keen to come back in 2 years.


Pep's obviously a brilliant manager, maybe the best ever, but I think he's picked up an unhelpful deference to veteran players as his career has gone on. Looking back to the famous 5-0 win for Barcelona vs Real Madrid, I would say there is zero chance 2022 Guardiola leaves Mascherano, Adriano and Maxwell on the bench to bring on Jeffren Suarez. He'd bring on the veteran player and leave the kid on the bench. I also don't think he'd drop Yaya Touré for 18 year old Busquets or Henry for Pedro any more.
 
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We should all know by now that Experience trumps a youth player Every time you can even look at Foden it took pep nearly 2 seasons before he became a regular
 
domalino said:
I think what's more frustrating from my POV is that he obviously didn't become a good premier league player overnight some point in July.

He was good enough to do this in February, March, April when we were running a thin squad into the ground. He could have come on for 20-30 minute cameos and taken some of the load off.

And then Pep would have had a better idea of if he needed Phillips, or at the very least, we could have had a stronger hand in negotiations with Southampton, and the kid would have greater attachment to the club and fans and be even more keen to come back in 2 years.


Pep's obviously a brilliant manager, maybe the best ever, but I think he's picked up an unhelpful deference to veteran players as his career has gone on. Looking back to the famous 5-0 win for Barcelona vs Real Madrid, I would say there is zero chance 2022 Guardiola leaves Mascherano, Adriano and Maxwell on the bench to bring on Jeffren Suarez. He'd bring on the veteran player and leave the kid on the bench. I also don't think he'd drop Yaya Touré for 18 year old Busquets or Henry for Pedro any more.
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As you are probably aware.....i have been singing his praises since Vinny suggested we sign him at 16,and no.....he very much didnt become an overnight sensation.It was obvious he had that bit extra and he could have done a very good job rotating with Dinho,who mentored him closely btw,last season.

No sugar coating this,we have let a good un go.
 
Would have loved him to get a chance in dead rubbers, but glad to see him playing.

Still things missing from his game Pep needs from his 6 in switching play and breaking lines. I've seen him do this but with JWP next to him why wouldn't you lay it off for him to do. The experience and confidence to expand his game is coming. The basic technical and positional side down already will stand him in good stead for an exceptional career in DM/CM
 
FantasyIreland said:
I think the point a few are making,myself included....is that he should have been given a chance here,instead of going out and spending 45m on a player that is no better.
It was clear as day that the kid had the ability and maturity to make the step up,hence why Saints recognised that and couldn't wait to give us a few quid for him.

He will be snapped up by one of or rivals unfortunately,as they will not have 2 players in their prime already on their books.
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Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

A second source repeating what the first source ( who we know to be a bellend) said. By this time next week, it will be 80 million. It's click bait time on the twateraty .
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FantasyIreland said:
I think the point a few are making,myself included....is that he should have been given a chance here,instead of going out and spending 45m on a player that is no better.
It was clear as day that the kid had the ability and maturity to make the step up,hence why Saints recognised that and couldn't wait to give us a few quid for him.

He will be snapped up by one of or rivals unfortunately,as they will not have 2 players in their prime already on their books.
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That won't happen. If he's good City will take up the option. Even if it's just to sell him on
 
Gingers Dad said:
That won't happen. If he's good City will take up the option. Even if it's just to sell him on
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We have had several opportunities to buy back players and then re-sell them.
Douglas Luiz and Jack Harrison recently but we have not taken that route.
Very few clubs do this and normally just take the sell on clause option.
Angelino is the only one I recall who returned and was then sold on but not sure if this was actually planned or just a default.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
We have had several opportunities to buy back players and then re-sell them.
Douglas Luiz and Jack Harrison recently but we have not taken that route.
Very few clubs do this and normally just take the sell on clause option.
Angelino is the only one I recall who returned and was then sold on but not sure if this was actually planned or just a default.
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Angelinos was low enough to ensure a very good profit.

As for this kid,i think his quality is that bit more than those we have allowed out on similar deals.
 
Gingers Dad said:
That won't happen. If he's good City will take up the option. Even if it's just to sell him on
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Taking up the option is only part of it....the kid has got to want to come back to be messed about if your scenario was to pan out.

If the Dippers,Chelsea,Arsenal etc. or a top foreign club come in for him and there is a slot for first team regular footy,he'll be offski.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Taking up the option is only part of it....the kid has got to want to come back to be messed about if your scenario was to pan out.

If the Dippers,Chelsea,Arsenal etc. or a top foreign club come in for him and there is a slot for first team regular footy,he'll be offski.
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I saw somewhere that Chelsea wanted to buy him off Southampton for 50m on deadline day
 
Xhavenjoe said:
I saw somewhere that Chelsea wanted to buy him off Southampton for 50m on deadline day
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I wouldnt put too much faith in that report,but 100% they will be monitoring him very closely and i would not be surprised one bit if he moves next summer.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Taking up the option is only part of it....the kid has got to want to come back to be messed about if your scenario was to pan out.

If the Dippers,Chelsea,Arsenal etc. or a top foreign club come in for him and there is a slot for first team regular footy,he'll be offski.
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Correct but he's already played at City. Surely that would give us the upper hand in negotiations
 
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