Aston Villa (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

It most definitely most often tesults in finding a goal. I hate those 'football is not for you' throw away remarks, but if you have to even ask that, I wonder you have been watching. Not just under Pep, not just out team. Has always been the case, and aleays will be, long before Pep tried to be stubborn about it, long after you and I are gone.
I have watched plenty and I can’t answer the question. When teams are losing and they throw on attackers do they score more often than not, and more importantly go on to turn it around ? Or is it a higher percentage than when teams don’t make changes
Maybe you definitely think you can, maybe there are stats that say so there are for everything else. I can’t say one way or the other. Nothing wrong with not knowing.
 
Alvarez has to start. He has to be in the starting eleven. He gives us more than any of our other wide players he has to start next game
Absolutely. But sadly he won't start in Seville or v Spurs. South American Player of the year and if we are not careful, he might lose his edge thru lack of game time. I think Pep is being kind to trusted players who are out of form.
 
I have watched plenty and I can’t answer the question. When teams are losing and they throw on attackers do they score more often than not, and more importantly go on to turn it around ? Or is it a higher percentage than when teams don’t make changes
Maybe you definitely think you can, maybe there are stats that say so there are for everything else. I can’t say one way or the other. Nothing wrong with not knowing.

Of course they do. All the time.

Maybe there is a fair degree of sheer overlap, of the fact that teams make substitutions late on, and games are won late on. But that is what happens. It is that obvious thatbit doesn't need deep statistical analaysis, or quasi-philosophical devil's advocate fuckery.
 
Of course they do. All the time.

Maybe there is a fair degree of sheer overlap, of the fact that teams make substitutions late on, and games are won late on. But that is what happens. It is that obvious thatbit doesn't need deep statistical analaysis, or quasi-philosophical devil's advocate fuckery.
So it’s just your perception, what I said. May be right might not.
 
This season, we'll see many games like yesterday's football wise, but the results will be generally better. Yesterday we were incredibly uncreative for our standards.

We'll want to control games and will take fewer risks going forward, which won't be pretty at times. The reason, apart from aiming at being solid in defence, is that by keeping the ball longer the players can stay fresh and avoid injuries. When the game is end to end like at Newcastle, it's great to watch but it's physically and mentally more taxing for the players. Given the freak nature of this season, the ability to control games will be very important to having more energy and consistency.

We'll be fine.
 
I think Haaland has masked a few deficiencies for us, we’re not quite as in control at the moment. I don’t think we’re fully up to speed, we still look like a side with very little preseason. We’ll get better as we play more.

I still think we’re a man short in midfield, we have Gundogan, KDB and Bernardo for 2 positions and they’re going to have to play a lot of football. Philips needs to get fit quickly, he would have given us some energy late second half yesterday.
Well said.
 
So it’s just your perception, what I said. May be right might not.

Oh yes well done, facetious reaponse of the weeks goes to a nothing exchange.

Incidentally. The team that made the change yesterday chased and got the winbibg goal. Just happened to have been unfairly ruled out. Just my perception. And the fact it actually happened.
 
Oh yes well done, facetious reaponse of the weeks goes to a nothing exchange.

Incidentally. The team that made the change yesterday chased and got the winbibg goal. Just happened to have been unfairly ruled out. Just my perception. And the fact it actually happened.
Okay then if it’s so blindingly obvious, why do you think the best coach in world football has stated his reluctance to make many changes to a team chasing a goal?
They didn’t score a winner by the way because players stopped after the early all be it wrong whistle so he didn’t score.
 
Oh yes well done, facetious reaponse of the weeks goes to a nothing exchange.

Incidentally. The team that made the change yesterday chased and got the winbibg goal. Just happened to have been unfairly ruled out. Just my perception. And the fact it actually happened.
You can see the point he's making, though, right? Arsenal just lost their game for making offensive subs chasing a game. So it does pose the question of how many teams win, lose or draw after a set of subs that chase the game.
 
You can see the point he's making, though, right? Arsenal just lost their game for making offensive subs chasing a game. So it does pose the question of how many teams win, lose or draw after a set of subs that chase the game.

Rather depends on the quality of the subs, doesn't it? We've got subs that would literally walk into virtually every other first team in the league. In fact, we've just offloaded two ‘subs’ who are just about the best thing about their respective teams, Arsenal and Chelsea.
 
Rather depends on the quality of the subs, doesn't it? We've got subs that would literally walk into virtually every other first team in the league. In fact, we've just offloaded two ‘subs’ who are just about the best thing about their respective teams, Arsenal and Chelsea.
Well I'd imagine it is dependent on a lot of things, including who you take off and the flow of the game and how long the players take to get up to speed and if you have a more important game on Tuesday and the fitness of the squad and so on and so on. But I don't think the original poster was making a silly point to say that though it might feel like a truism chucking on attacking players might not actually always be the winning move it feels like.
 
Poor performance in the end I don’t get why he didn’t bring Alvarez on when we needed a goal.
Pep wanted to show Gundie and Bernie that they remain important to him. Therefore giving them as much game time as possible. Not sure why he gives an out of form Phil so much time still. Harland must play. Rodri in his holding position too. This leaves only KDB's place where Alvarez could have started. Mahrez coming on rather than Alvarez was a pecking order decision. Pep is trying to be fair and dare I say kind to those who have served him well. Of course Alvarez should have come on yesterday. The whole forum has said so. Grealish too with instructions to take defenders on! I hope Pep will eventually realize that Alvarez should be the second name on the team sheet (after Harland) because he's that good. South American's Player of the Year must have looked on in disbelief at the performances of those preferred to him.
 
Well I'd imagine it is dependent on a lot of things, including who you take off and the flow of the game and how long the players take to get up to speed and if you have a more important game on Tuesday and the fitness of the squad and so on and so on. But I don't think the original poster was making a silly point to say that though it might feel like a truism chucking on attacking players might not actually always be the winning move it feels like.

Not every subs will be always game changer and besides i think Pep feels that equalizer changes the momentum to Aston Villa heavily. So he against making too much tactical changes in fear it will distrupt the team and only ended up making us lose the match.
 
Not every subs will be always game changer and besides i think Pep feels that equalizer changes the momentum to Aston Villa heavily. So he against making too much tactical changes in fear it will distrupt the team and only ended up making us lose the match.
That would be my reading as well. I do get the frustration of being a fan and wanting to chuck the exciting young kid on who looks like has bags of energy, but I trust Pep in these moments.
 
Walker should not be played in midfield. It isnt working as he's not good enough on the ball. That's not his skillset. If Pep wanted a rightback who can go into midfield we should have bought one or play Cancello there.

Also Foden has settled into being a system player.

Gets the ball and immediately passes backwards. No creativity, vision or drive to his play anymore.

I suppose it means less chance of losing the ball which is what Pep wants.
I still believe in Phil but you are right. "Gets the ball and immediately passes backwards" and often to whoever passed to him! But now Harland is here, he does pause and play a forward pass! Yay. I recall an England game where Phil played some brilliant long ball passes (forward) rather like KDB does. Maybe if KDB is injured, Phil could do this for City. Pep must have seen that England game.
 
So it was 1 point gained on arsenal, not 2 point lost

funny how football can write a story one day, then the next day speaks volumes
 

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